MARK MARTIN RETIRING?

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
11 years ago
3,259 posts

You said it would never happen,well he said it too. Only thing is he has no plans for 2014.

But as he also said he has an open spot with Tony Stewart starting with testing at Daytona..And as quoted by him, The cool thing about that is Ill be kind of doing it on my terms. We havent gone solid with the level of commitment or duties that I will have. I told them I wanted to get this year behind me. Im kind of tired and might not make the best decisions right now. I want to stay focused on these races. Were improving and that feels good. Its been a lot of hard work by all these guys to start improving, and were there now, so Im digging that.


updated by @johnny-mallonee: 04/09/20 01:33:32PM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

A lotta races have gotten the checkers for Mark since this 1981 interview at Raceway Park. Wish the best for him however it shakes out.




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

Johnny, Mark won the pole as a youngster in September 1981 at the first race I ever sponsored. It was his 2nd pole, including Nashville in just five 1981 starts.




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
11 years ago
3,259 posts

And dave did you notice the different brands of cars in the race? A Buick of all things and some character out there in a Pontiac! Next thing you know those guys in Daytona will have one of those little Japanese cars out there trying to run with those Detroit cars.................... memories

Cody Dinsmore
@cody-dinsmore
11 years ago
589 posts

I've also heard that Bobby Labonte and Jeff Burton have no plans for next year. And plus Schrader is done too! However, as you see in late models and in the truck series....there is alot of young talent that will be Cup stars within the next 5 years.

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
11 years ago
3,259 posts

well those kids running around in the trucks spinning each other out then getting out and slapping another driver, slapping is for the, well the kiddies. if thats the new breed we waiting for we in a heepa trouble

RockHillWill
@will-cronkrite
11 years ago
167 posts

Hey there, Dave

Thanks for posting that newspaper clipping. That car was one of my early scratch built cup cars that came out of my White Crown Engineering shop in Fort Mill, S.C. Ray Dillon sent a front clip that I got approved by NASCAR, and we build the rest of the car from that start. If you are OK with it, I would like to add this picture to my own website? Do you have any other pictures of this car at Richmond?

This car had many 'innovative' features. Instead of using sheet metal to go between the existing frame width and the lower edge of the body side panel,I added another length of 4" x 3" rectangular tubing over the entire length. It initially went un-noticed, but after the race, some one got to looking and they made us uncover the ends to find what they considered an excessive amount of lead, and after more investigation they re-weighed the car and found out that we were running 60-1/2 % left side weight. The rule book was subsequently changed to specify a maximum left side weight. (around 52% if I recall correctly). This car was extremely responsive to wedge and track bar adjustments, allowing for a lesser degree of stagger to be needed.

I have never liked stagger as I always felt that while it made the car feel better in the turns, one of the reartires was 'dragging' going down the straight sections of the track, negatively effected brake bias when entering a turn and contributed to premature heat build up and wear in the right rear tire.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

Will, by all means, please use the clip. I captured it using the Google News Archive search.

A very quick seach turned up these 3 photos of Mark's Sept. 1981 pole winning Richmond car:

Above photo from www.mantiquesto.com

above photo from RR member, Ray Lamm

Above photo from RR member, Woody Delbridge




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

Will, I think you may have partially answered a question posed back in January by our RR member, Woody Delbridge of Richmond responding to an earlier post I had made about the 1981 race:

Permalink Reply by Woody Delbridge on January 25, 2013 at 2:34pm

Dave, in response to your opening statement, I vividly recall sitting in the stands in disbelief that Mark's car wouldn't start. And when they pulled that shop rag out from under the air cleaner all I could think of was the poor guy who was responsible.

I recall the talk around town about Mark was that he was a hotshoe ASA driver looking to make it big in NASCAR. Ultimately it worked out but it was a rocky start. I also vaguely remember something about him having an ASA car with a trick rear suspension that only had one rear spring under it. Anyone else recall this?




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
RockHillWill
@will-cronkrite
11 years ago
167 posts

I do not recall the non-starting issue because of a shop rag, but that would have been my responsibility as I was the crew chief.

Regarding the single rear spring: I also recall hearing about Marks car possibly having extreme left side weight that allowed the left rear spring to be quite heavy, say 450 pounds/inch, along with a terribly weak right rear spring, say 110 pounds/inchthat was suspended from the top spring bucket. That would allow the car to have an extreme amount of bite, both entering and exiting the turns, but cause extreme front tire wear if not re-arraigned before the start of the race. That setup would also allow the crew chief to change the bump steer to have almost two degrees of anti-Ackermann to allow for the increase of slip angle caused by the increase in right front tire down force caused by apparent loss of weight at the right rear tire.

However, this remains only a rumor!

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

I definitely remember the rag and the car not firing because our Wrangler New York ad agency (Dancer, Fitzgerald, Sample) had brought executives of Skippy Peanut Butter (Best Foods) to Richmond to observe Mark, as they were considering going racing in 1982. They didn't. This clip is from the Fredericksburg paper:




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
RockHillWill
@will-cronkrite
11 years ago
167 posts

Hey Dave, that is an interesting newspaper report. I know I am getting old, but this does not ring a bell with me going down this way. I do vaguely remember the rag, but not the name Bobby Jones? There were several of Marks friends from his short track group there at the track. Getting old perhaps???

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
11 years ago
3,259 posts

Woody, he over doses on 7-11 Blueberry Slurpee's. Southland Corporation gave it to him as a going away present. Just kidding I know a lot about Southland back in that period of time.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

Chased with a Big Gulp!




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

Looks like Bobby Jones was still involved with Mark in spring 1982 after reading this clip:

Bobby Jones was still fielding cars as late as 2007, but has since passed. Bobby was around pit road for a long time. I have not been able to figure the year of his passing, but ARCA carried the news on its web site:

ARCA Car Owner Bobby Jones Passes. ....

bobby-jones.jpg Bobby Jones, who was a winning car owner/crew chief and fielded cars as a team owner in the ARCA RE/MAX Series for over 20 years, died Wednesday, October 21 on Amelia Island, Florida.

He was 62, and had battled a series of medical issuesfor the past several years.

The owner of Bobby Jones Racing, a business built on over 40 years of experience in the automotive industry, Jones learned auto repair and maintenance as a teenager working with his father, Edward Junior' Jones before pursuing a motorsports career.

Jones worked for many years as a crew member and crew chief for NASCAR team owners, working with many of the legends of stock car racing including Tiny Lund, Bud Moore, Parnelli Jones, Junior Johnson, Cale Yarbrough, Darrell Waltrip, Mark Martin, Rick Hendrick, Greg Sacks, Page Jones, and many others. Jones was also involved with Ford Motor Company and the Ford-backed Holman & Moody. In the process, Bobby drove, built, was the pit crew, shop foreman, division manager and key contributor to racing teams that participated in NASCAR Sprint Cup, NASCAR Nationwide, ARCA RE/MAX and NHRA races. Jones was a member of racing teams that won two SCCA Trans-Am championships and three NASCAR Winston Cup championships. In addition to building race cars, teaching metal fabrication, welding, and race car construction techniques, Bobby also ran a race car driving school.

His ARCA RE/MAX Series career highlights included a car owner victory with driver Mickey Gibbs at Texas World Speedway in 1992 and a pole at Texas with driver Page Jones in 1993. He also finished second as a car owner with driver Greg Sacks at Chicagoland Speedway in 2003 and finished second again with driver TJ Bell at Winchester Speedway in 2006. Bobby was also instrumental in grooming ARCA drivers' Bell and Chase Miller during each driver'sascension into the NASCAR ranks.

Bobby is survived by his sister Judy Jones and son Edward. He is preceded in death by his father Edward L. Jones, his mother Johnnie Jones and brothers' Jimmy and Richard Jones.

Messages of condolences may be sent to Judy Jones, 474323 State Road 200, Fernandina Beach, Florida 32034.

The Bobby Jones Racing video below was posted from Daytona on February 22, 2007.




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

This was a 2006 News Release:

Bobby Jones Racing opens new shop

New Shop Open and Ready to Race MOORESVILLE, N.C. -- Bobby Jones, a veteran in the world of racing, has opened the doors to his 40,000 sq. foot race shop to do what he knows best, race. Currently running 3rd in points with driver TJ Bell in...

Added: June 9, 2006 at 4:32am This page has been viewed: 249 times

New Shop Open and Ready to Race

MOORESVILLE, N.C. -- Bobby Jones, a veteran in the world of racing, has opened the doors to his 40,000 sq. foot race shop to do what he knows best, race. Currently running 3rd in points with driver TJ Bell in the ARCA Series, Jones is committed to his new goal of team owner operator.

"We want to let everyone know about our facility and the commitment we have made and how serious we are about the future of developing two solid ARCA programs and a NASCAR Busch program," commented the 60-year-old Jones. "We also have Ron Neal on board. He will be a large part of the future of BJR as we will begin to build our own engines."

The three and one-half acre complex is on Rolling Hills Road in Lakeside Park in Mooresville, N.C. Equipment is moving in daily to the facility once owned by Ricky Rudd, Robert Yates and Wood Brothers Racing. The chassis dyno is used daily by Dodge, and a new engine dyno area is slated to be completed in four weeks. The building houses a complete paint shop, fabrication area, machine shop, parts department, etc., everything a multi-car team needs for success. Bobby Jones Racing uses Dodge chassis and Mike Eggy Engines.

"The plan is to continue to run TJ and go for the championship because we are right in the thick of it and I should mention we are looking for sponsorship to finish that out," continued Jones. "Next year, I would like to take TJ to the Busch Series and keep my ARCA program going to bring young talent in to the sport. We have cars available to run this year so I welcome calls from drivers or sponsors."

Bobby Jones started fixing his Dad's cars as a teenager and over the last 43 years has worked with a long list of motor sports icons such as Junior Johnson, Mark Martin, and Rick Hendrick. Jones has been behind the scenes for most of these years and looks forward to his opportunity to be out front contributing to the sport he loves.

Former crew chief and FOX TV analyst Larry McReynolds has known Jones personally and professionally for many years, "Bobby is a racer and the key to being a successful owner is relating to everything that happens to the car and team," said McReynolds. "Nobody has handed Bobby anything; he has worked hard for it and his commitment is obvious when you see what he is building over at Lakeside."

- www.bobbyjonesracing.com




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

A few interesting Bobby Jones clips, including the first naming both Bobby Jones & Will Cronkrite each fielding cars out of Spartanburg in 1973:

And this from a 1993 Tom Higgins column:

Jones' AJ Foyt 1993 Daytona 500 entry didn't make the show, having overheating problems in the 125-miler:

1993 Gatorade Twin 125 Qualifier #2

NASCAR Daytona Qualifier race number 2
Thursday, February 11, 1993 at Daytona International Speedway , Daytona Beach, FL
50 laps on a 2.500 mile paved track (125.0 miles)

Time of race: 0:47:41
Average Speed: 157.288 mph
Pole Speed: 189.274 mph
Cautions: 2 for 7 laps
Margin of Victory: 1.5 cl
Attendance: n/a
Lead changes: 5

#ffa;">

Fin St # Driver Sponsor / Owner Car Laps Money Status Led
1 4 3 Dale Earnhardt GM Goodwrench (Richard Childress) Chevrolet 50 35,200 running 34
2 16 15 Geoffrey Bodine Motorcraft (Bud Moore) Ford 50 22,200 running 0
3 1 18 Dale Jarrett Interstate Batteries (Joe Gibbs) Chevrolet 50 15,200 running 0
4 11 4 Ernie Irvan Kodak Film (Morgan-McClure) Chevrolet 50 10,200 running 1
5 12 7 Alan Kulwicki Hooters (AK Racing) Ford 50 8,400 running 0
6 3 5 Ricky Rudd Tide (Rick Hendrick) Chevrolet 50 5,100 running 15
7 18 8 Sterling Marlin Raybestos (Stavola Brothers) Ford 50 4,800 running 0
8 20 41 Phil Parsons Manheim Auctions (Larry Hedrick) Chevrolet 50 4,650 running 0
9 5 27 Hut Stricklin McDonald's (Junior Johnson) Ford 50 4,500 running 0
10 8 26 Brett Bodine Quaker State (Kenny Bernstein) Ford 50 4,250 running 0
11 10 16 Wally Dallenbach, Jr. Keystone (Jack Roush) Ford 50 4,100 running 0
12 17 40 Kenny Wallace Dirt Devil (Felix Sabates) Pontiac 50 3,950 running 0
13 9 17 Darrell Waltrip Western Auto (Darrell Waltrip) Chevrolet 50 3,800 running 0
14 7 30 Michael Waltrip Pennzoil (Bahari Racing) Pontiac 50 3,650 running 0
15 2 12 Jimmy Spencer Meineke (Bobby Allison) Ford 50 3,500 running 0
16 24 48 James Hylton De's LP Gas (Stavola Brothers) Ford 50 3,250 running 0
17 15 89 Jim Sauter Evinrude (Mueller Brothers) Ford 49 3,100 running 0
18 13 29 Kerry Teague Pro Cal (Jim Rosenblum) Chevrolet 49 2,950 running 0
19 27 77 Mike Potter Balough Racing (Henley Gray) Ford 48 2,800 running 0
20 26 99 Brad Teague Ball Racing (Ralph Ball) Chevrolet 46 2,700 running 0
21 21 51 Jeff Purvis Phoenix Construction (James Finch) Chevrolet 36 2,500 running 0
22 23 50 A.J. Foyt Slick 50 (Bobby Jones) Ford 33 2,400 overheating 0
23 14 2 Rusty Wallace Miller Genuine Draft (Roger Penske) Pontiac 24 2,300 engine 0
24 6 21 Morgan Shepherd Citgo (Wood Brothers) Ford 21 2,200 engine 0
25 19 46 Al Unser, Jr. Valvoline (Rick Hendrick) Chevrolet 10 2,600 crash 0
26 22 52 Jimmy Hensley NAPA (Jimmy Means) Ford 10 2,000 crash 0



--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts




--
"Any Day is Good for Stock Car Racing"