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Jay Coker
@jay-coker
12/02/11 08:47:52AM
177 posts

My Favorite Nascar Story Of All


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It is Sandeep. I bought mine on eBay on VHS several years ago, but there is someone offering them on DVD.

Stock Car Legends Reunion

Of course...I just took my VHS copies and transferred them to DVD. And I sell them cheaper than that site too ;)

Jay Coker
@jay-coker
12/01/11 10:48:30PM
177 posts

My Favorite Nascar Story Of All


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Some of you may have heard this one before...rest assured, it's funny!


updated by @jay-coker: 08/26/18 03:02:31AM
Jay Coker
@jay-coker
12/01/11 02:20:54PM
177 posts

It Was Glamorous - It Can't be Recaptured


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How many teams/people did Stacy not pay his second time in the sport???

I know Terry Labonte was leading the points in '82 when Stacy "pulled his sponsorship" because "he had a Texas Jeans logo on his drivers uniform." Then he ditched Dave Marcis for pushing an out of gas Bobby Allison to the pits at Pocono (Allison came back and won the race...and beat another Stacy-owned car for the win.) Then I know he stiffed Jack Beebe and the 47 car with Ron Bouchard...I think by the time the year was over, the only car he still had his name on (beside Tim Richmond's) was Junie Donlavey's #90.

Stacy had sort of an itchy trigger finger too. Joe Ruttman ran great at Daytona in 1982, would've won Richmond except that he had a freak mechanical failure RIGHT before the last caution for rain came out, and I'm pretty sure he was out of the 2 car just after that. His replacement- Tim Richmond- saw the light I believe and bailed at the end of '82.

Then he didn't seem to have any kind of direction with the #5 team that year. Jim Sauter had a good run in the Daytona 500 until he had a mechanical failure towards the end. He put Robin McCall in the car at Michigan (Robin McCall went on to become Mrs. Wally Dallenbach Jr.) Don't get me wrong- Stacy had something there- but he managed to mismanage everything that he had going. Another example was hiring Mark Martin as Tim Richmond's replacement. Mark didn't start off well- but he took third at Darlington in the Transouth 500, then suddenly pulled him out of the car. That was almost the end of Mark Martin, as he had JUST sold his entire team's inventory at auction because he took the Stacy ride. As a matter of fact, I am pretty sure I have the Grand National Scene issue where the auction is listed. I'll see if I can find it and will post it.

Jay Coker
@jay-coker
12/01/11 01:40:22PM
177 posts

It Was Glamorous - It Can't be Recaptured


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Writing that reminded me of JD Stacy's self-described business policy:

"Coal mine, moonshine, or move on down the line." I think that says a LOT about one Jim Stacy.

Jay Coker
@jay-coker
12/01/11 01:38:33PM
177 posts

It Was Glamorous - It Can't be Recaptured


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The story with Warner Hodgdon was that he had an accountant that embezzled literally millions of dollars out of his company. At the time, Warner owned or had major interest in several tracks- Bristol, Nashville, Rockingham are the three that I immediately think of. Not to mention he sponsored the Wood Brothersin '82, RahMoc in '83, and co-owned the 11 and 12 cars with Junior Johnson in 1984. As a matter of fact, about the time his City Of Industries and National Engineering companies got sued, he was also looking at being sued by Rockingham for not paying the sponsorship fees he owed in 1984 as title sponsor of the 1984 American 500. Then he owed Junior Johnson money, andcorrect me if I am wrong, but Junior Johnson had to do his own legal shuffling to keep the 11 and 12 teams out of foreclosure.

Let this be a shameless plug if you don't already own it to buy a copy of Forty Years Of Stock Car Racing- Vol. 3, The Modern Era. It goes into some detail about the likes of MC Anderson, JD Stacy, Rod Osterlund, and Warner Hodgdon. Of the four, I feel the worst for MC, because he wanted to do it the right way, but couldn't convince Cale Yarborough to drive full time in 1983 for right at $1 million (unheard of $$$ at the time.) Considering how good that 27 car was at the time (Tim Brewer, Harold Elliott were on that crew) I think it's VERY possible had Cale went for it, Bobby Allison may have never won the 1983 championship.

Jay Coker
@jay-coker
11/30/11 04:16:57PM
177 posts

It Was Glamorous - It Can't be Recaptured


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Dave,

Just wondering if you know many of the specifics of why Rod Osterlund got out in 1981. I know Greg Fielden said in "Forty Years Of Stock Car Racing" that it had to do with feeling the pinch of interest rates and that he was heavily involved with real estate. Granted I was only 5 years old when all of that happened, so I really wouldn't know...but it strikes me funny that his car wins the championship (Wrangler was on the car at Ontario in 1980 when he won the title), lands the Wrangler deal, and within 6 months he's denying rumors that he's selling the team. Earnhardt runs 2nd, 2nd, and 6th the next 3 weeks, then he sells to JD Stacy.

Jay Coker
@jay-coker
12/03/11 07:12:57AM
177 posts

Hey Sleepy Heads--can you name the track where this happened?? And date ??


Trivia

Thanks Johnny. Just don't hit me in the face with it! ;)

Jay Coker
@jay-coker
11/29/11 06:42:57AM
177 posts

Hey Sleepy Heads--can you name the track where this happened?? And date ??


Trivia

Not trying to contradict the story, but in the video Stock Car Legends Reunion when David Pearson retold the story, it was Tiny Lund that hit him with the pie, not Cale.

Jay Coker
@jay-coker
11/23/11 09:39:28PM
177 posts

Request for stories and photos from Nov 23, 1980


Stock Car Racing History

Pretty sure this was Kyle's car in the 1980 race...

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