Did He or Didn't He (intentionally bring out the caution to get his teammate in the Chase)? NASCAR Investigating Bowyer Spin

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

I've been waiting for Johnny Mallonee to ask if Clint Bowyer intentionally spun out in the closing laps of Saturday night's Richmond Cup race allowing his teammate, Martin Truex at Michael Waltrip Racing to earn a berth in the Chase while likely costing Ryan Newman the win and a Chase berth.

The talking head experts immediately after the event were unanimous in their opinion that Bowyer intentionally spun out.

I don't know if he did or didn't, but with his associations with the Waltrips and Richard Childress he certainly has the background.

In his driving days, Richard Childress was the master of intentionally bringing out the yellow for his benefactor, car owner Junior Johnson.

RC pulled that crap on us at Riverside in June 1981. Dale Earnhardt had a huge lead in our Wrangler Osterlund Pontiac with just a few laps left. That's when I watched Junior Johnson walk down to RC's pit. Next lap, RC runs up into the wall in that sweeping final turn at Riverside, intentionally bringing out the yellow. Junior's driver, DW got new rubber and beat us at the line.

It sucked, but there was nothing we could do about it.

NASCAR won't do anything this time either. They're happy to have another rice rocket in the Chase.

NASCAR reviewing questionable Clint Bowyer spin

By Mike Singer | CBSSports.com
September 8, 2013 4:05 pm ET

NASCAR is investigating to see if members of Michael Waltrip Racing deliberately spun out at Saturday night's Federated Auto Parts 400 at Richmond International Speedway in order to aide a teammate's chances at qualifying for the Chase, the Associated Press reported.

At first, NASCAR president Mike Helton said the scoring tower saw nothing suspicious as Clint Bowyer spun out with seven laps left, bringing about the caution flag. Ryan Newman, who was leading at the time, was in position to claim the final spot of the 12-car Chase field, but Bowyer's spin ultimately allowed his teammate, Martin Truex Jr., to claim the final spot in the field.

We didn't see anything that indicated anything like that was taking place, Helton said to the AP It's natural when everything was as close as it was between who was going to get in and not go in to scratch your heads and try to figure out and wonder why.

But evidence from in-car audio captured by ESPN suggested that it was indeed a planned spinout.

Thirty-nine [Newman] is going to win the race, Bowyer was told by his crew chief, Brian Pattie. Is your arm starting to hurt? I bet it's hot in there. Itch it, Pattie said.

That's when Bowyer, who has denied that it was deliberate, spun out.

We had a flat tire or something. It just snapped around, Bowyer said. I know it's a lot of fun for you guys to write a lot of wacky things. Go ahead if you want to. Get creative. But don't look too much into it, he later said to the AP.

NASCAR wasn't able to review the ESPN audio until after the race, and it will presumably be vetted appropriately.

Two other questionable late-race pit stops by Bowyer and teammate Brian Vickers suggested even more help for Truex. Both pitted as the race was nearing its end, which improved Joey Logano's position helping him earn a berth at the Chase and eliminated Jeff Gordon. With Logano's berth secured, it freed up a wild card spot for Truex as Gordon wasn't eligible for a wild card.

An AP review of the team's radio communication suggested that the pit stops weren't by accident.

The latter incident isn't uncommon in racing, but the spin, supported by the audio, was fairly blatant.




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updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM
Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11 years ago
3,119 posts

Well, that blows part of what I have included in the Legendtorial for Tuesday.I was already convinced, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Bowyer intentionally spun to help Truex. It had not even occured to me that those fake pit stops by Bowyer and Vickers were made to help Truex. You know how I feel about the Waltrips, so, in fairness, this comment is probably a little biased, but if you saw Mikey on camera in the pits after the race, it was difficult to determine if that was guilt or simple stupidity on his face. NASCAR chose the Chase Format, and people like Waltrip are learning ways to trick their way around it. Frankly, I would put NOTHING past Waltrip and/or Bowyer.

I think NASCAR should review that last restart in which Duck Boy took the lead. When JJ beat JPM to the line on a restart earlier in the season, JJ had a pass through penalty. Duck Boy blantantly jumped the start and beat the leader to the line yet Dale Jarrett seemed to be the only one bothered by it.

I am well aware there are those out there who will have a lot of fun with the conspiracy theory and the "black helicopters", but some of those are the same folks who believe Waltrip is on the up and up and that Duck Boy is a "clean" driver.

What the heck, some of this may end up in the Legendtorial after all. It's about time I let some of this pent up disgust blow off. So stand by Tuesday night.




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Bobby Williamson
@bobby-williamson
11 years ago
907 posts

Even if it was deliberate, and even if it can be proven, what can NASCAR do at this point? The genie is already out of the bottle, and the horse is out of the barn. They may can assess some type of penalty to Bowyer, for the start of the Chase, but that's of little consolation to Newman and others.

Dennis  Garrett
@dennis-garrett
11 years ago
560 posts

Dale Earnhardt Sr. has been known to have create and won some late caution flag races in his life.
When an race track reporter asked "How Lucky, you won this race after being down several laps!!
Dale Earnhardt Sr. smiles and said,"You Got To Make your Own Luck"!!

Thanks for any information or photos posted.
Dennis Garrett
Richmond,Va.USA

bill mcpeek
@bill-mcpeek
11 years ago
820 posts

It was so obvious it was faked and planned as was the double pit stops. Another thing that bothers me is how can a great driver like JJ who is blessed with a great team and car manage to lose a wheel and hit the wall just to help Jeff Gordon. The whole deal is starting to smell a bit and if a couple large sponsors get edgy and pull back maybe they will get rid of the 1 1/2 milecookie cutter tracks and we can see some racing instead of a pre-programmed parade. jmo....

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11 years ago
3,119 posts

Reading some posts on other racing sites this morning the concensus, by a HUGE margin, is that a breathing Waltrip is a cheating Waltrip. Funny thing is, this morning I can almost justify that. Waltrip only cares about the money and having two of those "rice rockets" of his in the Chase means more spending money for his hobbies. After all, that's what it's all about. I think honor in the sport went out awhile back, or it seems so with most. It is laughable, and I mean REALLY laughable, that Helton says "NASCAR will review the situation". As Bobby says, what are they going to do if they verify what we all know, that Bowyer spun on purpose? Maybe penalize him a few points in the Chase.

Now, I see this morning that NASCAR admits Duck Boy jumped the restart but declined to penalize him. What? Is it possible that there is a double standard here?????? Jimmie gets penalized for the same thing Duck Boy did but there is no penalty for Duck Boy?

The one I really feel bad for there is Martin Truex. He has shown me, throughout his career, that he is a good driver, he has the fire to be a winner. He should not have the stigma of being in the Chase because his idiot car owner pulled some low down trickery to get him in. Frankly, "at the end of the day" (the now often used catch phrase for politicians and others of high education) what is it going to matter. If we ever had doubt before about NASCAR manipulating the races the way they want (which has always been the case) you now have proof positive.

As the lion in the new grocery store commercials says "that's my two cents worth".




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Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

Bill, does kinda smell like somebody left several cans of opened sardines on some manifolds.




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Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
11 years ago
3,259 posts

Ok here goes ---

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (Sept. 9, 2013) NASCAR has issued penalties to Michael Waltrip Racing following the sanctioning bodys review of Saturdays race at Richmond International Raceway .

MWR was found to have violated Section 12-4 (Actions detrimental to stock car racing). As a result, MWRs three teams in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series (No. 15, 55, 56) have been penalized with the loss of 50 championship driver and 50 championship owner points, respectively.

These point penalties are assessed following the seasons 26th regular season race and not after the seeding for the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup. Therefore, the point total for the No. 56 car driven by Martin Truex Jr. is reduced to 691, putting him in 17th position and eliminating him from the second Wild Card berth for the Chase field. Ryan Newman , driver of the No. 39 car, now moves up into the Chase as the second Wild Card participant.

NASCAR has also fined the MWR organization $300,000 and indefinitely suspended Ty Norris, MWR Executive Vice President/General Manager and spotter for the No. 55 car, for violating Section 12-4. The three crew chiefs Brian Pattie (No. 15), Scott Miller (No. 55) and Chad Johnston (No. 56) have all been placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.

Based upon our review of Saturday nights race at Richmond, it is our determination that the MWR organization attempted to manipulate the outcome of the race, said Robin Pemberton, NASCAR vice president of competition. As the sports sanctioning body, it is our responsibility to ensure there is a fair and level playing field for all of our competitors and this action today reflects our commitment to that.

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
11 years ago
3,259 posts

the genie hic-uped i think and missed his cue on making it all good -- but one things for sure Ryan got the nod at least

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
11 years ago
3,259 posts

guess who is out and now who is in o-how the wheels of nascar weave the web of the chase... now to hear what TOY_OTA has to say about this ---any guesses????????

Bobby Williamson
@bobby-williamson
11 years ago
907 posts

OKAY! Justice is served.....well, kind of. However, as the Waltrip crew said "the 39 going to win the race........" Then, because of their shenanigans, he did not. Ryan's in the chase, but he did not win the race.......Carl Edwards did after doing the same thing (a penalized) Jimmie J. did at Dover.

bill mcpeek
@bill-mcpeek
11 years ago
820 posts

At least they have stood up and corrected a glaring deliberate fix. In my opinion as far as the re-start Carl, said the other car spun his tires and we will wait and see if there's proof of that. Its been a long time since nascar has had any logical rulings.....Maybe there's hope yet.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

HOORAY!!! Ty Norris of MWR is one of the biggest ---es I ever met in motorsports. Had to throw him and his little girlfriend out of my Richmond press box back in the 90s when he first took the RJR Winston PR job. He had the audacity to bring this bimbo into a WORKING press box and have her take the assigned seat of a daily newspaper filer. He was a sneak then and still a sneak.




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Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
11 years ago
9,137 posts

While they're at it, they better check their fuel samples from all three MWR cars!!!




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Devin
@devin
11 years ago
620 posts

THAT other site is lit up. I say please get rid of the Chase.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11 years ago
3,119 posts

What "other site"?




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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.

Devin
@devin
11 years ago
620 posts

The one folks can hardly navigate....the story on the penalties at NASCAR.com.

click here and scroll down

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11 years ago
3,119 posts

Wow! Give 'em hell folks. They deserve it.




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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.

Devin
@devin
11 years ago
620 posts

Yep, it is non-stop. Lots of interesting comments, to be sure.