Hamlin & Newman Correct / Fines Suck

Aha, some things never change. Ryan Newman & Denny Hamlin are fined by NASCAR for telling it exactly the way it was/is. By golly, if Bill France, Sr. had been as thinskinned as his son and grandkids, poor Bobby Allison would have gone broke from fines for his comments. I happened to be in an ISC suite during an ARCA race at Talladega in the 80s with Gary Ballough leading. This was during the time that a lot of suspicion about drug dealing was going on. Bill France, Jr., sitting directly behind me, screamed, "Throw the GD yellow" into his walkieshortly after Ballough took the lead. Sure enough, that yellow for phantom debris created the scenario for a different race winner than the driver under scrutiny.What a shamed that NASCAR is trying to silencetwo of the most intelligent drivers in the sport. What happened to "Have it boys?" I guess it's ok to deliberately crash other competitors and put them and the fans in the grandstands at risk, so long as you don't pubicly question NASCAR's judgement. No wonder the stands are empty and the tv ratings have dropped down to the level of telecasting tiddlywink competitions.


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updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM

I just saw this on nascar.com. I can't believe this.....it's like what we said on "Racing The Way it Was" the other night, nascar is scared and they're making fools of them selves right now.Just for the heck of it, lets make a video of some of us talkin about nascar and send it to Brian France. lol-Cody

Problem with that scenario, Cody, is Brian would have to bring someone in to show him how to work the dvd player to watch the video. After watching it, he would find fault with all we had to say and go about justifying his misguided judgments. I know that the past three weeks, moreso than anything else NASCAR has done, have driven me to the point of almost saying "to hell with it". If I can ever justify to myself that the heritage I so strongly believe in is no longer important whatsoever to the institution of NASCAR, then I'm finished. But as long as there is a Richard Petty, a Bobby Allison, a Rex White, a Ned Jarrett, I have to believe what they did meant something. I guess my heart can't give it up easily.I had a discussion today about the Fred Lorenzen caution flags when NASCAR was so hot on making a star out of the golden boy who had no "redneck" accent, that when Freddie needed a pit stop, debris magically appeared on the track. Back then, we sort of overlooked it because we were struggling to be recognized as a major sport. Funny how that makes the old admonition of "be careful what you wish for" mean so much more.Tim


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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.

They used to do that for Jimmie Johnson. When he was about to go a lap down....oh...a caution came out, Jimmy gets his lap back. I honestly believe that he does good at the beginng of the year, wins a few in the middle to look good and lets it all out during the chase. For example the last two Brickyard 400's (not including the one last week) Jimmie has won and Mark Martin ran second. In 2008, he was with what used to be DEI, in 2009, he was with Hendrick, I also believe "someone" told him to let Jimmie win but look like your racing.....in other words, Nascar fixes alot of things for their favorite and mos successful driver.......-Cody Tim Leeming said:

Problem with that scenario, Cody, is Brian would have to bring someone in to show him how to work the dvd player to watch the video. After watching it, he would find fault with all we had to say and go about justifying his misguided judgments. I know that the past three weeks, moreso than anything else NASCAR has done, have driven me to the point of almost saying "to hell with it". If I can ever justify to myself that the heritage I so strongly believe in is no longer important whatsoever to the institution of NASCAR, then I'm finished. But as long as there is a Richard Petty, a Bobby Allison, a Rex White, a Ned Jarrett, I have to believe what they did meant something. I guess my heart can't give it up easily.
I had a discussion today about the Fred Lorenzen caution flags when NASCAR was so hot on making a star out of the golden boy who had no "redneck" accent, that when Freddie needed a pit stop, debris magically appeared on the track. Back then, we sort of overlooked it because we were struggling to be recognized as a major sport. Funny how that makes the old admonition of "be careful what you wish for" mean so much more.
Tim

Tim you and Cody done went and muddied up the infield so its hard to get away with anything for fear of tracking up Brians Office. But wait wasnt Big Bills office on the ground floor where he was accessible to all? I might have a photo of that but you both are right on target with those caution flags.If you cant find Bills old office here is a photo of the entrance, now go clean the mud off your shoes before you go in

Nascar maybe fools but if you make a living from it then keep quite. The same thing happens in any other sport or business for that matter.