Will the two "new" rules end two-car tandems at Talladega & Daytona???

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
13 years ago
9,137 posts

Personally, if the new rules end the two-car drafting deals, I think the racing will be better.

Changes could limit Talladega tandems

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- NASCAR tweaked two rules for next month's race at Talladega Superspeedway, apparently in an effort to limit the two-car tandem racing that has dominated at its two fastest tracks.

The first change ordered Wednesday was an increase in the size of the restrictor plate that will be used in the Oct. 23 race. The larger holes in the carburetor plates should lead to an increase of horsepower that could make the cars 2 to 3 mph faster.

Drafting is a common occurrence at Talladega, but NASCAR hopes to change that with new rules.
NASCAR also ordered an adjustment on the pop-off valve in the cooling system that should lower the maximum water temperature in engines. A threat of overheating could prevent cars from staying hooked together for too long.

Drivers discovered over the last year that it's faster to run at Daytona and Talladega in two-car tandems. That style has replaced the popular two- and three-wide packs, and fans have been lukewarm about the tandem racing.

Now, two cars hook up bumper-to-bumper, one clearly pushing the other until the potential for overheating forces them to separate and then swap. It's made for record lead changes and exciting finishes, but is a totally different style than the white-knuckle pack racing fans loved.

Drivers, meanwhile, said it's impossible to see anything when they are pushing another car and Dale Earnhardt Jr., NASCAR's most popular driver, has repeatedly railed against tandem racing.

"What kind of move can you make in racing like this?" he asked in July. "There ain't no move you can make. You just hold it on the mat and try not to wreck into each other."

NASCAR vice president of competition Robin Pemberton made no mention of the tandem racing in explaining the rule changes.

"After the last few superspeedway races, we've heard many drivers express their desire to open up the size of the restrictor plate some and we thought the time was right to do that," Pemberton said in a statement. "We anticipate these revisions in the rules package for Talladega will help continue to provide competitive and exciting racing for the fans."

The larger restrictor plate could push speeds over 200 mph, but the combination of the pop-off valve change likely means the cars won't be able to stay locked together for as many laps. David Reutimann crew chief Rodney Childers thinks drivers might be limited to a lap of pushing before needing to swap.

"Changing the plates will be better," Childers said. "It should make it more racy, where you can pull out and pass. If they are wanting to make it where people can't draft as long, it's going to do that. Probably only a half of a lap or a lap is all you're going to get out of it."

Chad Johnston, crew chief for Martin Truex Jr., predicted that drivers will have to swap positions more. That could make it dicey, he said, because drivers will have to swap while also avoiding the two-car packs closing in behind them.

"The chances of something going wrong on a swap are going to go up obviously, but hopefully it will eliminate or lessen the two-by-two racing," he said.


Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press




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updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:02:07PM
William Horrell
@william-horrell
13 years ago
175 posts

I surely hope it does Dave...I guess it remains to be seen just what the change is going to be but it is a change none the less.

200 lead changes...Now that might keep me interested for a little while.

Dennis Andrews
@dennis-andrews
13 years ago
835 posts

I have come to the conclusion that NO driver likes PLATE racing. No matter how they tweak itmost will not like it. Even if they took away all the rules that are aimed at providing close racing and let them go as fast as they can (and stay out of the grandstand) the fans of today would raise a ruckus as soon as someone got hooked up and lapped the field.

I got an idea. Make them run the raod courses at the Big D and Dega. Nothing buches up cars like a hairpin!

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
13 years ago
9,137 posts

lol...

I certainly understand there won't be ANY racing if a car gets in the grandstand. But, I sure don't like the two car deals. I was there at Talladega when Awesome made up two laps, on the track, under the green.

Didn't much like that, either.

Surely somebody, somewhereis smart enough to give us great racing at Daytona and Talladega again with no wings, no plates, decent speed and the least likely chance of a car airborne. A good ole last lap setup for a slingshot. Is it not possible to cut back the cubic inches and rpms? Just asking. No mechanical brain here.




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Richard Guido
@richard-guido
13 years ago
238 posts
What NASCAR did to the cooling systems of these cars during Speedweeks was terrible. They created this mousetrap and it does not amtter how they tweak their trap it still sucks.
Richard Guido
@richard-guido
13 years ago
238 posts

Sorry Wally but NASCAR's tweaks are not about safety but about keeping it close. Allions's cartwheel at Dega in 87 surely had to be addressed but most of whatthe sanctioning body has done since is a complete joke.

The July Daytona event is a clear example of the JOKE. Bill France did not like it when Petty dusted the field at Daytona in 1964 and did something about it but his move nearly bankrupted NASCAR. France Jr. did not like Bill Elliott's dominance at Daytona in 1985 and he tried to address it but failed.

The restricotor plate solved the problem of a team and driver having their act together at Daytona. In recent years the new Daytona MODEL has leaked into the entire series from how the cars are set up to how the races are conducted. But really, this is nothing new is it?