Cousin Carl Edwards, you tell me

After watching the Nationwide race tonight, I will NOT, at this time, comment on the Aflac Ducker. I would, however, like to hear from all of you, and especially the duck feather fans about the end of that race.

I await comments.

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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.


updated by @tim-leeming: 09/24/18 01:40:04PM

I'm gonna need several replays on this one!

I have seen 2-3 replays of the last lap plus Carl's interview in Victory Lane. Based on replays AND Carl's interview, it appears that he wrecked Keselowski intentionally. I love racing, am not particularly a fan of either driver, and have seen both drivers be very aggressive at times. I have seen times when it appeared that Keselowski has been carelessly aggressive, causing others to wreck or cut down tires. To give either driver any benefit of the doubt (as far as intentional wrecking) would have to go to Keselowski because, even though he has much talent, he is not too far removed from rookie status & his careless aggressiveness may have been more of a wreck causer than intentionalness......Carl is much more experienced, has gotten mad a couple of times, & intentionally taken someone out. I feel pretty certain that NASCAR will have a serious talk with him about that, maybe fine, maybe suspension, maybe points loss. As I said earlier, neither of them is my favorite driver, but NASCAR, even though relaxing their strictness a little this year, is not going to allow intentional wrecking.

Between watching the race and the replays then listening to Carl , I know rubbins racing but not wrecking. I bet the other teams involved that lost or had damaged cars would agree with me. Brad could have wrecked him instead of moving him up the track then what would AFLAC being making payments to. Carl I'm disappointed again. As a former driver , if thats how I would have to win I had rather finnish last.

I can appreciate what you're saying, Billy, and you are right about wrecks & rivalries filling up more seats in the grandstands - and NASCAR certainly needs that, seeing as how those numbers have been declining the last 2-3 years. The one thing I do not ever want to see again, though, is a driver lose his life on the racetrack - and I've seen that more times than I care to talk about. Keselowski's car stopped sideways on the track & he got t-boned on the passenger side - I don't even want to think about what the result would have been if it had been on the driver's side. I don't have any problem with aggressive driving - after all, that's what racing is supposed to be about anyway - and I believe that when drivers have disagreements on the track, those should be settled off the track.....in whatever manner they choose to settle it. I realize the cars are a lot safer today than they were in the past, but I still can't agree with using them as weapons. And, of course, the other issue is all the equipment of innocent bystanders being torn up - some of those teams are big-money teams, but others are not & can't afford those kinds of losses. I'm all for the most aggressive racing they can put on the track & yes, racers do assume the risk when they strap themselves in, but I believe intentional wrecking is crossing the line of acceptability.

Hay Billy that was good i like what you said that sounds like the voice of experiance LOL

Curssin Carl is poor loser and can't take a licking.

Ernest Sutton said it for me. I agree with him 100%. There is a precedence for dealing with this kind of on track action by Nascar, but with wishy-washy Brian France in charge I don't think he has the guts to handle it the was his Dad did with Dale Earnhardt and Geoff Bodine. Remember?? Problem solved or Dale Earnhardt, Geoff Bodine, Richard Childress and Rick Hendrick could find another line of work because they weren't coming back to race Nascar. Maybe another group meeting to see if the drivers and their car owners want to pursue other interests. Ernest Sutton said:

I can appreciate what you're saying, Billy, and you are right about wrecks & rivalries filling up more seats in the grandstands - and NASCAR certainly needs that, seeing as how those numbers have been declining the last 2-3 years. The one thing I do not ever want to see again, though, is a driver lose his life on the racetrack - and I've seen that more times than I care to talk about. Keselowski's car stopped sideways on the track & he got t-boned on the passenger side - I don't even want to think about what the result would have been if it had been on the driver's side. I don't have any problem with aggressive driving - after all, that's what racing is supposed to be about anyway - and I believe that when drivers have disagreements on the track, those should be settled off the track.....in whatever manner they choose to settle it. I realize the cars are a lot safer today than they were in the past, but I still can't agree with using them as weapons. And, of course, the other issue is all the equipment of innocent bystanders being torn up - some of those teams are big-money teams, but others are not & can't afford those kinds of losses. I'm all for the most aggressive racing they can put on the track & yes, racers do assume the risk when they strap themselves in, but I believe intentional wrecking is crossing the line of acceptability.

While both sides have much to defend or offend about recent past experiences on the track, the events at Gateway were very different in their execution. Keselowsky's shunt was on the Ducker's left rear corner,and falls within what NASCAR considers acceptable to the classic "rubbin' is racin' " style that fill the seats.The Ducker's subsequent hit on Keselowsky was to the right rear, which is most often going to put a car into a flatspin in front of fellow racers, and has the potential to cause much collateral damage. While this type of hit may also satisfy the blood-lust of the fans, and makes for good footage on the evening news and endless highlight reels, it's the kind of hit that good professional racers would try to avoid.Maybe Cousin Carl needs to land on his head after a backflip and gain some common racing sense. We all know he's having a crappy year, but so what? He needs some time off . . .Keselowsky's young and impatient and every bit the talent that Edwards is or ever was . . .Nascar needs to get his attention as well possibly with a race or two "time out" so he can gain a little youthful experience and perspective.

Billy, I strongly disagree with one of your comments, "It being a lesser division and nobody was seriously injured". Neither of these have any bearing on the arguement. It makes no difference what the division or class of racing. Drivers must have a level of respect for their fellow drivers as well as the sport. The fact that nobdy was injured is a true blessing. But NASCAR can't wait till an injury happens to take a stand. Rules should not be written in blood. For the best interest of the drivers the actions of Edwards must be stopped; NASCAR must have a firm hand.Looking at the events of the last lap, I can't find fault with the nudge to move Edwards. Everyone exspects this and it is part of the sport. We have celebrated the same move in the past and stood and cheered as drivers nudge and position themselves as they fight for the checked flag, but I can't think of any time in the past when the drivers have nearly been sacrificed and no actions were forthcoming. With Edwards history it is clear that it will take more than a slap on the wrist to make it perfectly clear that his actions crossed the line and that the sport doesn't have to have him in it to continue.If NASCAR is going to take the high road on this it must come down hard on Edwards, and it must happen before the next race. I'm all for feuds and rivalries and it does bring attention to the sport, but the actions at Atlanta and Gateway are just something that can't be tolerated. Blanantly turning someone and showing no regard for the wellbeing of a fellow drivers or fans must be stopped today.

It is like this. Brad does need more expereince because he should have known that Carl would not be up to a warm and fuzzy bump and run. Think about it.All to often we see drivers not having respect for eachother let alone the sport in general. Nascar opened themsleves to criticism by letting them "Have at IT".No disrespect but Dale Earnhardt had a free pass for a long time and Nascar did nothing about it to speak of. Curtis Turner may have been the original Hard head untill he clipped Lee Petty one day the caught a crow bar to his head.Carl and Brad are canceling eachother out and time will tell if either will amount to much of anything in this sport.

I wonder if anyone has calculated how many destroyed bent up race cars have been in the wake left by Edwards and Keselowski?

I guess I'm wired a little differently than most because I don't understand why there is a question about this. When you purposely turn a driver into the wall in front of the field it is WRONG. I don't like wrecks, I want hard, side by side racing. What Brad did in turn 1 was just that, hard racing. I saw Earnhardts name mentioned and I bet many folks loved his style of racing. I saw it a dirty myself. But the stunts that Carl has pulled this year are worst and can only be seen as shameful.Its amazing to me to see the Ford fans try to justify his actions. Some in my own church refuse to see this as anything other than hard racing, when in fact it was a stupit loss of temper that could have cost several drivers their lives. Thank God everyone was fiine THIS TIME...