NASCAR---- What do you think, is it still interesting???

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
14 years ago
3,259 posts
Does NASCAR still have a special place in your heart?What is it about NASCAR that makes it so interesting to you or are you turning to older racing ?Tell your favorite NASCAR story, or tell why you follow NASCAR, or tell how you first got interested or what is your thought of the future of NASCAR .Do you watch because of the speed involved or the courage it takes to keep the pedal to the metal? Do you watch because of a certain driver or a certain car? Do you watch for the strategy and the action? Do you watch to see the wrecks, or do you watch to compare with the good ole days?I bet everyone has an issue, care to share yours??
updated by @johnny-mallonee: 12/05/16 04:00:58PM
Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
14 years ago
3,119 posts
Stock car racing, to me, has been, is, and always will be interesting. NASCAR management, on the other hand, is now so out of sync with the core race fan as to make be question where that is headed. I have commented, in another blog recently, that NASCAR is more, much more, than the fancy offices on Volusia Boulevard in Daytona. It is the memories of Tim Flock, Curtis Turner, Joe Weatherly, Lee Petty, Dale Earnhardt, Sr., and so many more, and those now in the sport who have sought realization of the dream of being there for so long. That dream was mine once. I made it, although only to the smallest of venues, but I was once a NASCAR driver. I'm still proud of that, always will be. But, today, NASCAR gets nothing from me but my television audience on certain races. I am loyal to the "soldiers" of the sport, not the "politicians" who sit in offices and cause the problems (and I'm not talking offices in D.C.).


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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.

Jeff Gilder
@jeff-gilder
14 years ago
1,783 posts
NASCAR does still have a special place in my heart. I suspect it always will. The current evolution of the sport is really different from its roots but, still represents something that has been part of my life for over 50 years. Like Tim, I am proud to have held a NASCAR license and for the memories of what that meant...and still means to me.


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Richard Guido
@richard-guido
14 years ago
238 posts
For me it is about the cars and the drivers.My parents took me to Dover in the Spring of 1975 and it was like Christmas day in May. If there is a good training ground to become a race fan Dover is it. Being in that infield for a 500 mile race gives a true appreciation of what it is all about. The old Dover in particular was brutal. I have been to the old track many times and quickly learned to love 500 mile races. You could not expect an exciting finish but knew that to get the deal done at this speedway was a big deal. The Winston Cup schedule was extremely tough during the 70's having the Spring race right before or after the World 600. Imagine having to strap up and run 500 laps in Delaware then heading to Charlotte for a 600 mile marathon.I am very lucky being at Dover in 1975 to see Pearson and Petty at the top of their game. The cars of that era were unbelievably beautiful and nasty at the same time. Richard's dayglow red and blue Dodge was a wonderful contrast to David's white and red Mercury. The red on Petty's car was flourecent to the point that your eyes would almost hurt and the gold foil numbers on Pearson's machine set off the Wood Brother's work. Cale's workmanlike white Chevrolet matched Benny Parson's Kings Row Chevy and Bobby Allison's red, white and blue Matador was also a site to see.This was the golden era of Nascar in my opinion as some of the best drivers ever used the decade as their personal playground. Bigt ime racing was personal at that time as if almost know one knew about it with very little or no television coverage. This environment created a feeling that you were part of something that was yours.Maybe I am selfish thinking that what it was years ago was better than now or possibly my selfishness is due to seeing this spectacle at the young age of 13.I have since decided that it is ok to be selfish with it because nothing happening today even compares to what was the Greatest Show on Earth.
Cody Dinsmore
@cody-dinsmore
14 years ago
589 posts
For me, I will continue to watch nascar and keep watching no matter how corrupt it may get. I first got into it when I was about 7 watching the 2003 finale at Homestead at a restaurant. At the time, I didn't have a clue who Bill Elliott, Tony Stewart, Richard Petty, David Pearson, Jeff Gordon, etc was. We were eating with my grandparents. And after seeing my dad and granddad disappointed when Elliott blew on a tire on the last lap. I figured that if they were into it, I needed to be. So at the start of the 2004 season, me and my dad watched Dale Earnardt Jr pass Tony Stewart to win the Daytona 500. I heard DW saying when Jr done his burnout that he done it like his dad or something like that, so I figured that his dad must've been a driver. My dad favored Tony Stewart, so naturally, he became my favorite driver. During that time (First 3 or 4 races of the season) I was very sick, so staying inside every Sunday, I got to watch a couple races. I do remember Rockingham and Vegas right after that. Matt Kenseth won both races in a photo finish with Kasey Kahne. When I watched the Vegas race, I remember the name Kenseth and Kahne, and thought "Wow, those two drivers were in those same positions like last week. And that one is a rookie!" I didn't always watch the races every Sunday....I forgot sometimes as I had a best friend neighbor (my only neighbor too) so we always played together everyday. His family were Jeff Gordon fans. I didn't realize until after that, that his address was 1124 (end # being Jeff Gordon's #) and our's was 1120 (last two # being Tony Stewart's number) To this day, I've always thought of how cool that was. For my birthday that year, I got a Nascar computer game from a few years back, so it had some of the older drivers and learned from that, and a Special Edition of Sports Illustrated all about Nascar. It was more of a book rather than the usual magazine. It told all about the history of the sport, etc. So, I read it and read it and remembered the info. Incidentally, my birthday used to be around the Watkins Glen race and Tony Stewart would usually win, so I used to think of that as a birthday present. lolEver since that November day in 2003, I've always been curious about cars and nascar/racing. In 2006, joined GARHOFA (the Georgia Automobile Racing Hall of Fame Association.) From there I met a lot of interesting people and have had a lot of great opportunities. They respected me and I respected them. Also in 06, For the first time, I talked on the microphone at Dixie Speedway! In 2007, I visited the GRHOF (Georgia Racing Hall of Fame), I was very pleased, and kept going back until finally, somehow, I became a volunteer and never looked back. In 2009, I was very fortunate enough to become a part of Racers Reunion and that has to be one of my greatest accomplishments I think. In 2010, I'm still going strong and hope to do bigger and better things with my life.Didn't mean to tell my life history here...but to answer to Johnny's original post "What do you think of Nascar and is it still interesting?" I say yes, no matter what happened in the past, now, or the future, I will always continue to watch Nascar, people say it's boring during a race because there is no racing or passing or crashes...And I somewhat agree. It does make you sort-of bored seeing Kyle Busch or Kevin Harvick (Nothing against those guys) go out and lead almost every lap and dominate, see no bump-drafting, etc. But Nascar in general is a great sport.-Cody
Devin
@devin
14 years ago
620 posts
Wow, Johnny. What a question or questions. Let me take one a time, please:Does NASCAR still have a special place in your heart?Yes, the NASCAR I remember does. The current NASCAR, not so much.What is it about NASCAR that makes it so interesting to you or are you turning to older racing?My early years were spent at the local track every week and a piece of my heart is still there...with the track and with those who drove there. I can still remember driving over the track into the infield, where we parked, what I ate, where I walked, where I stood, who I cheered for, and I recall the drive away from the track. It was interesting to me then because of who took me, because of the cars and because of the drivers. I was fascinated and enjoyed every minute of it. Being at Columbia Speedway back then is one of my fondest childhood memories.Do you watch because of the speed involved or the courage it takes to keep the pedal to the metal? Do you watch because of a certain driver or a certain car? Do you watch for the strategy and the action? Do you watch to see the wrecks, or do you watch to compare with the good ole days?I watch now for the strategy and what I hope will be a good race with good sportmanship and no terrible accidents. In short, I would say I like to see a REAL race. And the reason I am a member here is because I believe in preservation, restoration, and most of all I believe in Mr. Jeff Gilder.Still turning left except when I drive to work,Devin
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
14 years ago
181 posts
I could not have put my thoughts on paper any better than you did, PattyKay.........I guess great minds think alike. I, too, have been a NASCAR fan for about 60 years, never was fortunate enough to be able to drive a real race car although I did my share of street racing when I was younger. I did manage to do a little flagging at various tracks around the southeast and have been a "frustrated" race car driver forever. I really, really admire you guys like Johnny, Jeff, & Tim who, in my opinion, are part of the "founding fathers" of this sport.....and dearly wish I could have been in some of those seats you guys were in. The sport is nothing like what it used to be...............but it is still racing and I still love it, just not quite with the same level of burning passion that I used to feel. Although I truly admire some of the great young racing talent I see on the track today, I believe that every one of those drivers & team members is passionate about what they are doing - even those that are not quite as talented or well-financed as some of the others. Having said that, I am distressed about the changes, the current management, and the direction taken by the sport in recent years. It was a lot more fun when it was being run by those who had been down in the trenches, paid their dues, worked hard & played hard, worked their way up that proverbial ladder & never forgot where they came from..............and before so, so much corporate money came into the picture (although R.J. Reynolds was a great supporter of the sport). It's obviously become a very big business today, but I believe the France family & their associates should do everything they can to familiarize themselves with the early & middle histories of the sport............and make every effort to recapture some of the early culture that was such magic. That probably sounds like a pipe dream.....and maybe it is..........but we can still dream & enjoy our memories. PattyKay Lilley said:
You guys make me humble. I've never driven a stock car, other than the one parked in my garage at any given time. I found the sport quite by accident, which I discussed when Tim dragged me onto the radio for an interview. (Still don't know why anyone here would want to hear about me) The only thing I've ever raced was a snowmobile, and that was only drags, not ovals. There were races for those things held every winter weekend, just up the road from me, but by that time, I was past 30 and a mother, not that starry-eyed 16-year old, and I guess I'd developed more good sense by then. Still, I wasn't afraid to push that thing well over 100 mph and do it well. Ah...what a shame that youth is wasted on the young.

Even to the young fan, it's obvious that this isn't your Daddy's NASCAR any longer. I'm not naive enough to think that Big Bill and Annie didn't think about making money with their new toy. Of course they did. They were only human, for goodness sake. But it was young Bill that built the empire, with a lot of help from R. J. Reynolds. (I still believe that T. Wayne Robertson belongs in their precious Hall of Fame, along with everyone else on their limited list. By the time all the pioneers are inducted into the HOF at the pace of 5 per year, most of us will be long dead and gone)

Someone, somewhere drew a comparison between the Family France and immigrant families in America, saying that in both instances, the first generation work their fingers to the bone to get ahead, because they can. The second generation, having been passed the torch, keeps up the good work and improves its rewards so as to provide for the next generation, "in style" if you will. The third generation, raised not to see the actual work that Grandpa did, believes that Dad's generation somehow owes him a living and all too often, when it's his turn to take over the business, just trashes it for what he can get out of it, putting nothing back into it, until eventually, there is no business left.

Sadly, I can see that comparison all too clearly and I fear for the demise of a sport I have loved unconditionally for almost sixty years. Remember, one of the very first things Brian France did after taking over NASCAR was to sell almost all of his stock in the corporation. Not clever in my book, but then, I've never looked at Brian as clever...and he probably doesn't think much of me either. What a shame it would be to see all of the excitement and wonderment we've loved for so many years just thrown out like the baby in the bath water.

Johnny, you mentioned one of my pet peeves there and you might be sorry you asked, so I'll try to keep this part brief. In my humble opinion, anyone that goes to a racetrack to see wrecks is not a fan by anyone's description. He...or she...is a jerk of the highest magnitude. There are human beings inside those cars, and in any wreck anywhere, in any car, the weakest and most fragile part in that car is the driver! Wrecks are not fun and they are not exciting. They can and do kill. If someone gets some sort of pleasure out of that, then that person is beyond my understanding.

NASCAR insists that racing Talladega with restrictor plates is a wonderful idea. Well, maybe for them, if it puts fannies in the seats, but I beg to disagree. That sort of racing just scares the daylights out of me. Cars were never meant to race there four wide and ten deep for a multitude of laps. That isn't racing; it's blatant insanity. When you insure that the fast cars cannot pull away from the back markers, that is nothing but a wreck waiting for a place to happen...and it seldom disappoints. Maybe I'm crazy or weird, but I sometimes actually sit and cry when I see one of the "Big Ones" occur. Besides the obvious but mostly unnecessary danger to life and limb, look at the cost to repair all of those beautiful machines. Someone has to pay that cost, but it isn't Brian France. Yes, I guess Hendrick, Roush and the other big boys can probably afford it, but why? Other smaller teams can be devastated by being caught up in a couple of those "engineered wrecks" made especially for the idiots that come to see them.

Ahem...Johnny, don't wind me up like that about things I hold near and dear. Sometimes, when you pull my string I tend to become a little Chatty Patty doll and just keep talking and talking and...

~PattyKay
Bumpertag
@bumpertag
14 years ago
363 posts
I became a NASCAR before I ever attented my first race. I use to sit with my uncles and would listen to the many stories and tales around the sport. They spoke with such passion and I hung on every word. I never saw Fireball, Lorenzen or Tuner run, but in my mind I have a very vivid picture painted by the words of those that had witnessed some of the legends of the sport. I spent hour after hour pouring through the stacks of Stock Car Racing magazines and reading about the sport that would become my passion. In 1973 I made my pilgrimage to Charlotte to the National 500. At the age of 13 I was able to witness the spectacle and feel the power of NASCAR. I haven't been the same since. At times I felt odd or out of place because I could only find one other student in school that knew about NASCAR and the heros that filled my imagination. We had verbal battles weekly, he was a Cale fan and I, of course, pulled for the King. We had great fun sparring back and forth.As an adult I've been fortunate enough to follow the sport and attend many races over the years. Live my dream as part of a Cup team for a few years and witnessed a what many feel was the greatest era of the sport. It is much changed, but still the same. Drivers and teams have come and gone but the sport is still recognizable. For me the NASCAR of today can't compete with my memories. We are bombarded by the media daily resulting in sensory overload, and with that has comes a numbing of the excitment. I still love NASCAR and I hope I always will but it takes a little effort to stay interested. Some races I would just as soon take a trip to the grocery store than try to watch. I guess this comes with age and the demands of my family, but I still call myself a fan.So yes, NASCAR still has a special place in your heart, but it was forged in the competition of racing many years ago. I'm amazed at the feelings that sometimes overwhelm me when I see films and coverage of the races of yesteryear. I shot of a Petty blue Plymouth still makes my hair stand on end, and yet 3 hours of todays race coverage barely keeps me awake. I am so grateful to have been a witness to something great.Thanks for the question, I love this site.Bumpertag in S. Carolina