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05/09/14 02:34:15PM
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Monday Night NASCAR on Tap for 2015? Brad & DW Agree


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As much of a traditionalist as I am, I agree it's time to re-work the schedule. A couple of thoughts about this particular proposal:

  • Right out of the gate, it's beyond laughable to invoke "equity in a race date" when it comes to Kansas. Covitz should get blasted for that one. I get that he is a homer because of living and working in KC area. But the Southern 500 was ripped from its Labor Day weekend after decades. And now this year, KC traded with the fake Southern 500 so that KC could get a Mother's Day weekend race. So cry me a river of about possibly moving that track's "equity in a race date".
  • A Monday night race is an intriguing idea. However, to use Daytona as the benchmark is a farce. Daytona always gets the strongest ratings whether it be Sunday afternoon, Sunday evening or Monday evening. But it's hardly the bellweather for the rest of the tracks the rest of the season.
  • If fans want to see a Monday race, they'll come from out of town. Folks coming from out of town for a Sunday race are likely already taking Friday and Monday - maybe even Thursday. If a race is moved to a Monday, they'll likely work Thursday and Friday and take off Monday and Tuesday instead. The race has to be attractive enough for folks to want to visit though. For me, KC wouldn't do it for me.
  • Even with a local audience, a track could lose parents with young children on a school night. That is a risk football, baseball, hockey and basketball take with all mid-week games. For all but football, the teams likely expect it and the gaps aren't as noticeable in 15,000 to 40,000 seat venues. But at a race track where you'd like to have 80,000 to 100,000, those gaps could be quite noticeable.
  • If the goal is to have a made-for-TV event, that's fine if it fits their business model. But seems they'd better adjust to what they want at the gate. If they could have solid TV ratings to drive up advertising revenue, they may be willing to trade down the number of butts in seats. I'd think TV, NASCAR, the track and the teams could adjust to that (and probably already have) than fans could. In recent years, several NFL games have not had full attendance yet ratings and revenues are at full strength. Football fans get it. Race fans watching on TV still seem to expect to see full stands, and we often criticize the networks when camera angles tend to stay away from shots of the partially filled stands.
  • So will a Monday or even a Thursday night race work? Perhaps. But I personally think it would need to be somewhere such as Bristol, Richmond, or All-Star race to work. Maybe they could even light Watkins Glen where an in-person experience has so many obstructions to begin with.
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05/07/14 04:48:08PM
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May 7, 1972: Pearson Begins His Talladega Triad


Stock Car Racing History

After parting ways with Holman-Moody after several successful seasons including two championships, David Pearson ran a pretty spotty schedule in 1971.

In spring 1972, Pearson joined the Wood Brothers' Purolator Mercury team. The Woods had already had a great start to the season with A.J. Foyt's winning the pole at Riverside and wins in the Daytona 500 and Miller High Life 500 at Ontario. With Foyt's commitment to Indy cars, he clearly wasn't in a position to run a limited yet regular NASCAR schedule. When Pearson was hired, so began a remarkable team whose success was also immediate and lasted through 1978.

In 1972, the team won the pole and the race in their first outing together - the Rebel 400 at Darlington. Two races later, the NASCAR circuit rolled into Talladega for the Winston 500. - Motor Racing Programme Covers

The race was branded as the second annual Winston 500 - though it was the third spring race at Talladega. Though Cup racing grew immensely with sponsorship from R.J. Reynolds, I guess the folks at Winston jumped right in with NASCAR for some revisionist history & simply chose to ignore the pre-RJR 1970 Alabama 500.

Bobby Issac won the pole in his Harry Hyde-prepared K&K Dodge Charger.

Pearson plunked his Mercury right alongside him on the front row. Three legends rounded out the top 5 - King Richard, Bobby Allison and Buddy Baker. Though Petty Enterprises fielded Dodges for Baker in 1971 through 1972, the King was making his first start in a Dodge after switching from Plymouths as was announced before the spring Martinsville race. The 43 team ran a mixture of the two for the rest of the year before turning to Dodges full time in 1973.

Buddy absorbing some race strategy with Maurice Petty and long-time Petty crewman Richie Barz.

A notable racer was making his first Talladega start: Marty Robbins. He qualified his purple and canary yellow Dodge Charger 9th in the 50-car field. - Gadsden Times

Another driver was making his first overall Cup start - newcomer Darrell Waltrip in a self-fielded #95 brown Mercury. Waltrip qualied mid-pack in 25th position.

The Alabama Gang was well represented in the race with Bobby and Donnie Allison, Red Farmer and Robert "Paddlefoot" Wales. Though I never met Paddlefoot, he frequently drove the #10 blue and gold Benward late model Chevelle at Nashville for a friend of my father's, Roy Counce.

J.D. McDuffie's car was 'sponsored' by Bro. Bill Frazier's ministry. Frazier's race day faith service was also broadcast over the track's PA system for what was believed to have been for the first time. As noted in the caption to the above photo of Marty Robbins, Marty agreed to sing a gospel number during Frazier's service.

Before the race, Pearson learned of the track's 'physical therapist'. Suddenly he developed a bad back and needed a massage.

Isaac and Pearson were pretty evenly matched most of the day. Pearson led 59 laps, and Isaac led 57. STP and Petty Enterprises teammates Baker and Petty led 32 and 14 laps, respectively. Around lap 170, Isaac made his final pit stop & returned to the lead. However, the crew apparently didn't get the gas cap back on the car and it dangled in the wind for the next several laps. For reasons of who knows why, it took NASCAR officials about 10 laps to realize the 71's gas cap was indeed flopping and a couple of more to decide what to do about it. They finally decided to black flag Isaac to force a return back to pit road.

But Isaac and Harry Hyde hadn't come that far to give away a race on a technicality. So they continued onward and ignored the black flag. But with just a few laps remaining, Isaac inexplicably tangled briefly with Jimmy Crawford'sPlymouth. Crawford went for a slide, and Isaac raced on. But the encounter was enough to let Pearson close the gap and motor on around Isaac to take the win.

NASCAR did not quit scoring the 71. I was under the impression even in the early 70s that a driver got 3 laps to observe the black flag or risk having their scoring card pulled. If so, an EIRI interpretation was made that day. Isaac was able to retain his 2nd place finishing position - and apparently the driver and owner points that came with it. He was simply fined $1,500 for ignoring the black flag. - Gadsden Times

I realize based on the purse sizes of the era that a $1,500 fine was more significant then vs. now. The amount was about 10% of Isaac's earnings for the day. Perhaps NASCAR felt the penalty was more significant than the points or purse he may have lost had his scoring card been pulled with only a couple of laps to go.

Pearson apparently liked Talladega's victory lane as he and the Woods returned there again in May 1973 and a third consecutive time in 1974. Surprisingly, he did NOT ever win the summer Talladega 500 race - even during that 12 year stretch when the race didn't have a repeat winner.

Finishing a strong fourth was The Golden - but Aging Boy, Fred Lorenzen in Hoss Ellington's Chevy. Lorenzen who didn't have near the level of success in his comeback from the late 60s through early 70s raced in only six more Cup events. He retired as a driver at the end of 1972.

Fortunately, there was no "Big One" wreck to wipe out a bunch of cars. By most Talladega standards, the race was a relatively uneventful one which allowed for some levity. The funniest story from the race involved Marty Robbins. Marty knew his limitations as a driver. He was as passionate about racing as he was his music. He knew he could race with the drivers - but didn't want to do anything stupid to screw up things for the drivers who raced full time for a living. During a mid-race pit stop, Robbins had his crew finagle his restrictor plate to essentially negate its intended purpose. As a result, he was able to hold 'er wide open. Just because he could, he mashed the gas and passed cars like crazy - if for no other reason than to see the expression on other drivers' faces as he passed them. After the race ended, he was to be presented an award for rookie of the race. It was then he copped to Bill Gazaway what he'd done and why he'd done it. Gazaway at first didn't want to believe him, but Marty insisted he couldn't accept the award. NASCAR was then forced to disqualify Marty and bury him in 50th and last place. The finishing position really meant nothing to Marty - all he knew was how much fun he had dicing it up with the big dogs.

Pearson and the Woods kept the Big Mo' rolling. In 13 more starts together in 1972, the team notched another 5 wins and 10 more top 5's.

An interesting sidenote regarding Marty Robbins and Waltrip. The 72 Winston 500 was Waltrip's first Cup race and Marty's first Talladega race. After passing away in late 1982, the spring 1983 race at Nashville's fairgrounds speedway was renamed in Robbins' memory. The winner? Darrell Waltrip.

Fin Driver Car
1 David Pearson '71 Mercury
2 Bobby Isaac '72 Dodge
3 Buddy Baker '72 Dodge
4 Fred Lorenzen '72 Ford
5 Richard Petty '72 Dodge
6 Joe Frasson '72 Dodge
7 LeeRoy Yarbrough '72 Mercury
8 Dick Brooks '71 Ford
9 Frank Warren '70 Dodge
10 Benny Parsons '71 Mercury
11 Dave Marcis '70 Dodge
12 David Ray Boggs '70 Dodge
13 Jabe Thomas '70 Plymouth
14 Cecil Gordon '71 Mercury
15 Ed Negre '70 Dodge
16 Jimmy Crawford '72 Plymouth
17 Ben Arnold '71 Ford
18 Ron Keselowski '70 Dodge
19 Walter Ballard '71 Mercury
20 Larry Smith '71 Ford
21 John Sears '70 Plymouth
22 Dean Dalton '71 Mercury
23 Bobby Mausgrover '70 Dodge
24 Elmo Langley '71 Ford
25 Henley Gray '71 Ford
26 Raymond Williams '71 Ford
27 Richard D. Brown '72 Chevrolet
28 Donnie Allison '72 Chevrolet
29 Dub Simpson '70 Chevrolet
30 Bill Champion '71 Mercury
31 Buddy Arrington '70 Dodge
32 Clarence Lovell '71 Ford
33 James Hylton '71 Ford
34 J.D. McDuffie '71 Chevrolet
35 Coo Coo Marlin '72 Chevrolet
36 Jim Vandiver '70 Dodge
37 David Sisco '72 Chevrolet
38 Darrell Waltrip '71 Mercury
39 Red Farmer '72 Ford
40 Buck Baker '72 Chevrolet
41 Wayne Smith '71 Chevrolet
42 Roy Mayne '72 Chevrolet
43 Charlie Roberts '71 Ford
44 Jackie Oliver '72 Ford
45 Bobby Allison '72 Chevrolet
46 Bill Dennis '70 Plymouth
47 Neil Castles '70 Dodge
48 Robert Wales '70 Dodge
49 Bill Ward '72 Ford
50 Marty Robbins '72 Dodge

updated by @tmc-chase: 12/05/16 04:00:58PM
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05/07/14 04:55:12PM
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A Spot for The Legend to Hang His Hat?


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I'd be glad to kick in some sweat equity. Well, sweat equity commensurate to whatever sweat I could work up by lounging in the heat amidst Tim's soon-to-own 66 acres.

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05/06/14 04:46:29PM
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Jeremy Mayfield Story


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Oh c'mon Dave. I absolutely love the awfulness of that commercial. A buddy of mine and I still quote it frequently and laugh each time. Any time we trade an email about Mayfield, we always spell the first name as "Jerrremyyy". Ha

We may need a thread on best & worst commercials - ones that can still be found on YouTube & such. One of the worst - yet one of the best - is the King's spot for Son Of A Gun. "Shoot da daysh, shoot da tars." Man I love that one.

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05/06/14 04:18:39PM
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My Updated NASCAR Diecast Collection....


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Getting back to MoparBob's original intent for this thread... If I could just get a 15 Bud Moore 1:64 scale car, I could create a diorama of this accident. I've got the Schaefer graphics to make it happen. Ha.

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05/06/14 03:59:52PM
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My Updated NASCAR Diecast Collection....


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Like you Dave, I've NEVER seen an image of Stacy-Pak vitamin packaging - just lettering on a car. Images of all sorts of products - new, old and ancient are available on the web. But not this product.

Perhaps it wasn't a human vitamin. Maybe it was put in chicken feed - especially feed for Clyde Torkle's chickens.

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05/06/14 03:39:28PM
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My Updated NASCAR Diecast Collection....


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I think Stacy-Pak may be some sort of coded anagram for Wrangler.

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05/05/14 10:29:07PM
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My Updated NASCAR Diecast Collection....


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Cool collection. I don't have a huge number of die-casts - perhaps 100 or so. But I did add a Tim Richmond / JD Stacy 1:64 scale one today.

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05/04/14 11:05:41PM
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May the Fourth Be With You


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Any Star Wars fans out there amongst this crowd? Many fans of the series wait all year for this date - May 4 - just so they can parody a line that is heard in all of the movies. While I'm likely pushing the bounds of retro racing as is expected on this site, I thought I'd recall some of the Star Wars themed cars from 10-15 years ago.

2005 Kyle Busch

1999 Jeff Gordon

Elliott Sadler

2002 John Andretti

Dale Jarrett


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May 4: Buddy Baker's Talladega Double


Stock Car Racing History


On May 2, Dave Fulton posted about  Buddy Baker's win in the 1976 Winston 500 at Talladega - his third consecutive victory at Talladega and all were with Bud Moore's 15 Ford team.

Over his multi-decade career, Buddy won 19 races. Of the 19, almost half were at 2 tracks. Four were at Charlotte, and four were at Talladega. Of his four Talladega victories, TWO happened to fall on the same day: May 4th.

His three-race winning streak at Talladega began on May 4, 1975. Baker let the field know early he was the man to beat by winning the pole for what turned out to be a FIFTY car field.

Jim Vandiver won the preliminary race - the ARCA 200 - on Saturday May 3. In an odd scheduling twist, Coo Coo Marlin won the pole for the ARCA race ... a week earlier.

Vandiver's Dodge was sponsored by H.B. Ranier, father of Cup team owner Harry Ranier. The "Ranier" name figured prominently into Baker's 4th Talladega win 5 years later. - Gadsden Times

Donnie Allison in his DiGard Chevy qualified alongside Baker. Brother Bobby Allison and Davie Pearson comprised the second row. The pace lap as the field lines up 2x2 for the start.

The Cup raced was overshadowed by tragedy - which seemed to be a part of the fabric of Talladega in the 70s. Randy Owens - Richard Petty's crewman and brother-in-law - was killed during a pit stop when a pressurized water tank exploded as he tried using it to extinguish a wheel bearing fire on the 43.


A unique participant in both the 1975 and 1980 races was Marty Robbins. He wrecked out of the 75 race and lost an engine in the 1980 event.

Baker was certainly the class of the field as he led 99 of the race's 188 laps. However, David Pearson led a sizable chunk as well by pacing the field for 27 laps. And Petty's 43 was out front for 22 laps as the Charger was pretty stout that day. But once Petty had to make the unexpected stop and Owens was killed, the Petty crew parked the 43 and withdrew from the remainder of the race.

Though Baker led more than half the race, his win was hardly assured as is the case more often than not at Talladega. But Baker manage to nip Pearson by about a foot to earn the win.

Following the race, the King was clearly distraught as he tried to speak with reporters about the accident in the pits that took Randy's life. - Gadsden Times

Fin Driver Car
1 Buddy Baker '75 Ford
2 David Pearson '73 Mercury
3 Dick Brooks '73 Ford
4 Darrell Waltrip '75 Chevrolet
5 Coo Coo Marlin '75 Chevrolet
6 Harry Jefferson '73 Ford
7 Grant Adcox '75 Chevrolet
8 Bruce Jacobi '75 Chevrolet
9 Joe Mihalic '75 Chevrolet
10 Richard Childress '75 Chevrolet
11 Bill Champion '73 Ford
12 Walter Ballard '75 Chevrolet
13 Dave Marcis '74 Dodge
14 Elmo Langley '73 Dodge
15 Skip Manning '75 Chevrolet
16 David Sisco '75 Chevrolet
17 Earle Canavan '74 Dodge
18 Joe Frasson '75 Pontiac
19 Richard Petty '74 Dodge
20 Tom Williams '74 Chevrolet
21 Cecil Gordon '75 Chevrolet
22 G.C. Spencer '74 Dodge
23 Travis Tiller '74 Dodge
24 Frank Warren '74 Dodge
25 Jabe Thomas '74 Dodge
26 Lennie Pond '75 Chevrolet
27 Jim Vandiver '74 Dodge
28 Randy Tissot '75 Chevrolet
29 J.D. McDuffie '75 Chevrolet
30 Ramo Stott '75 Chevrolet
31 Marty Robbins '74 Dodge
32 Ed Negre '73 Ford
33 James Hylton '74 Chevrolet
34 Harold Miller '75 Chevrolet
35 Bobby Allison '75 Matador
36 Gordon Johncock '75 Chevrolet
37 Red Farmer '73 Ford
38 Buddy Arrington '73 Plymouth
39 Dean Dalton '74 Dodge
40 Cale Yarborough '75 Chevrolet
41 Rick Newsom '73 Ford
42 Donnie Allison '75 Chevrolet
43 Benny Parsons '75 Chevrolet
44 Carl Adams '73 Ford
45 Ferrel Harris '74 Dodge
46 Dan Daughtry '73 Ford
47 Bruce Hill '75 Chevrolet
48 Johnny Ray '75 Chevrolet
49 Richie Panch '75 Chevrolet
50 John Banks '74 Dodge

Baker nabbed his next-to-last career win on May 4, 1980 in Harry Ranier's #28 'gray ghost' Oldsmobile by nipping 1979 ROTY Dale Earnhardt by about 3 feet - not quite as close as the win over Pearson but still one for the ages.

In the preliminary Saturday race, a driver who'd made his name known on the bullrings of the midwest and started his first Cup race at Atlanta earlier in the 1980 season won: Rusty Wallace. He won from the pole in the short-lived Grand American series Alabama 300.

David Pearson continued to show folks he still had gas in the tank after parting ways with the Wood Brothers in 1979. In 1980, he took over from Donnie Allison in Hoss Ellington's Hawaiian Tropic #1 car. The two had some immediate success with a win in the Rebel 500 at Darlington and capturing the pole for the Talladega race. Baker lined up alongside Pearson in his Waddell Wilson prepared Olds 442.

As was the case in 1975, Baker led the most laps. However, the competition was more balanced in 1980. Baker led only about a third of the race vs. the 99 laps he led 5 years earlier. Earnhardt led 55 laps to Baker's 61. Cale Yarborough and Pearson took turns for double-digit laps as well.

Earnhardt had a sizable lead as the laps wound down. But Baker was relentless in his pursuit of the Osterlund Olds, and he was able to get around Dale with the checkers in sight. Using Buddy Arrington as a pick on the backstretch, Baker was able to break Dale's momentum limiting his chances to pass the 28. Some footage of the final few laps of the race is available on YouTube. Unfortunately, the video can't be embedded here. But you can watch Baker eke out a win over Earnhardt at this link: http://youtu.be/MkT0QOZQR_E

Baker's win was the second at Talladega for car owner Harry Ranier in 3 seasons. Lennie Pond won the 1978 Talladega 500 for Ranier as well.

Fin Driver Car
1 Buddy Baker Oldsmobile
2 Dale Earnhardt Oldsmobile
3 David Pearson Oldsmobile
4 Lennie Pond Oldsmobile
5 Tighe Scott Oldsmobile
6 Cale Yarborough Oldsmobile
7 Lake Speed Chevrolet
8 Benny Parsons Oldsmobile
9 Dick Brooks Oldsmobile
10 Jody Ridley Mercury
11 Coo Coo Marlin Chevrolet
12 Richard Childress Oldsmobile
13 James Hylton Chevrolet
14 Steve Moore Chevrolet
15 Dick May Dodge
16 Tommy Gale Ford
17 Roger Hamby Chevrolet
18 Buddy Arrington Dodge
19 Frank Warren Dodge
20 Ronnie Thomas Buick
21 Bill Elliott Mercury
22 Gary Baker Chevrolet
23 Cecil Gordon Oldsmobile
24 Buck Simmons Oldsmobile
25 Donnie Allison Oldsmobile
26 John Anderson Buick
27 Neil Bonnett Mercury
28 Dick Skillen Buick
29 Dave Marcis Oldsmobile
30 Bobby Wawak Dodge
31 Richard Petty Oldsmobile
32 Terry Labonte Oldsmobile
33 Marty Robbins Dodge
34 Don Whittington Oldsmobile
35 Bill Elswick Oldsmobile
36 Bruce Hill Oldsmobile
37 Harry Gant Oldsmobile
38 Phil Finney Oldsmobile
39 Jim Vandiver Oldsmobile
40 Bobby Allison Mercury
41 J.D. McDuffie Buick
42 Darrell Waltrip Oldsmobile

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