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Dave Fulton
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03/24/12 12:06:28PM
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NASCAR Drivers Divided on Proposed Bruton Smith Bristol Changes


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Bopper, Bopper, Bopper....

You have NAILED it!

The undefined and inexplicable Bristol mystique is gone with the improvements.

I am old enough to remember when Darlington was "improved" sometime in the mid to late 70s. They added the concrete walls all around and eliminated the Armco guardrail and repaved the track, widening the old turn 3 in the process. Much of its mystique also disappeared.

The old turn 3 no longer required leaning the right side of the car against the rail as the quickest way around. "Bear Grease" was no longer needed on the pavement to preserve it. No longer did those of us sitting in Robert E. Lee's Paddock coming off the old turn 4 get to see the cars bobble and weave and slide up to the wall seeking traction and control as they "attempted" to race side-by-side on those 95 degree South Carolina Labor Day afternoons.

Concrete was certainly safer than the metal rail and the track needed repaving, but the character of the old turn 3 was destroyed as was the excitement of the cars coming off turn 4.

And never again could a driver display his "Darlington Stripe" as a badge of honor and badge of courage.

It was never again the same Southern 500 many of us had grown to know and love.

And this actually happened before ISC bought the place when Barney Wallace and Red Tyler were still at the helm.

As I have had said time and again, I hate watching a race on a concrete racetrack. I'll always prefer the original Bristol or the the second incarnation when the higher banks were added, but in both cases the ASPHALT Bristol. And, I'll take the asphalt Dover any day over the concrete Dover.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/23/12 07:55:31PM
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NASCAR Drivers Divided on Proposed Bruton Smith Bristol Changes


Current NASCAR

Mar 23, 7:43 PM EDT

NASCAR drivers divided on proposed Bristol changes

By GREG BEACHAM
AP Sports Writer

FONTANA, Calif. (AP) -- If Bristol Motor Speedway goes back to its rough-and-tumble roots before NASCAR returns in August, the drivers say they'll be ready for it.

Even if some are more excited about it than others.

Owner Bruton Smith is thinking about restoring tighter lanes and getting rid of variable banking at the venerable half-mile track, essentially forcing drivers to return to the beating and banging that made its races so entertaining and volatile.

Before preparing Friday for qualifying at Auto Club Speedway east of Los Angeles, Kevin Harvick counted himself among the traditionalists who would love to mix it up again.

"I like that rough-and-tumble type of racing," Harvick said. "I know a lot of the car owners and some of the drivers don't like that style of racing. That's what made Bristol what it was. People don't want to watch cars ride around with no donuts on the doors and no caved-in fenders at Bristol. They don't want to see a 200-lap, 150-lap green-flag run. That's not what they come to Bristol for, and that's why they quit coming."

Brad Keselowski, who won at Bristol last weekend while leading a career-best 232 laps, is equally emphatic in favor of the changes made in 2007 that allow smoother, cleaner racing.

"I think the race track is as good or better than it has ever been," Keselowski said. "I think there are other ways to make the racing better. Everyone's definition of what (to do) is a little different, but in my eyes, the track reconfiguration has helped the facility to what otherwise could have been a worse scenario. ... I do think that it would be a knee-jerk reaction."

Smith said earlier this week he would consider making $1 million in changes to respond to fans' concerns about the current setup at what is billed as the fourth-largest sports venue in the country.

Harvick thinks the current setup is behind declining attendance at Thunder Valley in recent years. The stands only appeared to be half-full last Sunday, although NASCAR announced an attendance of 102,000 in the 160,000-seat venue for what was once among the toughest tickets in sports.

"In all fairness, everybody in Bristol was trying to make the race track better, and in the end it didn't work for them," Harvick said. "The telltale sign of that was standing in the infield and looking at the crowd. It used to be years upon years of waiting lists. ... When you take a risk like they took on changing the race track with engineers, you're taking a big risk. Now they're going to pay probably the ultimate (price)."

Carl Edwards spoke for several drivers who reserved their opinions on the potential changes until Smith actually decides what to do, possibly as soon as next week.

"He can do whatever he'd like to do, and if it were possible to put it back just like it was, and he was willing to do it, then that's fine with me," Edwards said. "If the fans want it and they can do it, then my hat is off to Bruton for having the humility and the pocketbook to go out there and just say, `Hey, I'll do it.' That's pretty spectacular, I think."

Although fan sentiment appears to be leaning in favor of the changes, some drivers speculated that such extensive changes might cost much more than $1 million in practice.

And then there's Keselowski, who will let Smith know what he thinks - eventually.

"I never got his cell number," the Bristol champion said with a laugh.

2012 The Associated Press.


updated by @dave-fulton: 08/30/18 07:57:42AM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/23/12 04:01:50PM
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Rockingham


Historic Speedways and Ghost Tracks

Dennis, I bet you are right about the dirt track not being built because of the success being enjoyed by Rockingham Speedway.

As I've related on these pages before, my first trip to Rockingham was on the race train from Richmond in March 1966 (2nd GN event held at NCMS) for the first, last and only Peach Blossom 500 won by Paul Goldsmith.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/23/12 08:11:35AM
9,138 posts

Rockingham


Historic Speedways and Ghost Tracks

Interesting in the second article to note that Rockingham planned to ban infield parking and also have a 1/2-mile dirt track in the infield.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/23/12 08:06:21AM
9,138 posts

5th World 600


Stock Car Racing History

I think today's fans would be just as interested to read that kind of info.

Used to be the entry lists and radio info all contained the driver's name, hometown and car #, as well as the car owner name and sponsor. Now you're lucky to see the driver name and car number flash on a screen in the tv openings.

Very interesting stuff, Dennis.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/22/12 04:50:08PM
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Will Danica Do Darlington on Time or Points? Depends on Rooty Tooty this Weekend at Fontana


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The No.10 Tommy Baldwin Racing Chevrolet, shared by Danica Patrick and David Reutimann, currently is 36th in owner points. If Reutimann cant get the car back inside the top 35, Patrick will have to qualify on speed at her next race at Darlington, S.C.

Read more here: http://www.thatsracin.com/2012/03/21/83826/aftermath-of-situation-no-clearer.html#storylink=cpy


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/23/12 07:41:27AM
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This Museum Outdrawing NASCAR HOF By Big Numbers and it has a Ray Hendrick Flying #11 Modified


Stock Car Racing History

Ray,

Neither Elliott Sadler nor his brother, Hermie seem to have forgotten their roots. I used to love to watch Elliott's uncle, Bud Elliott of Emporia, Va. win on the dirt at Wilson in the early 70s. The Sponsor was always Sadler Chevrolet. The family has a great racing heritage.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/22/12 04:27:38PM
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This Museum Outdrawing NASCAR HOF By Big Numbers and it has a Ray Hendrick Flying #11 Modified


Stock Car Racing History

No... not the world's greatest location on West Broad in Richmond just east of The Boulevard. However, it is within a block of The Science Museum of Va. and Imax Theater of Virginia which are big draws for kids, also. Not far at all from the former "Hut" owned by Junie Donlavey's late driver, Sonny Hutchins.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/22/12 03:03:35PM
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This Museum Outdrawing NASCAR HOF By Big Numbers and it has a Ray Hendrick Flying #11 Modified


Stock Car Racing History


This is MY kind of museum. Unlike the NASCAR Hall of Fame, this exhibit includes the Flying #11 of " Mr. Modified" , Ray Hendrick . When they put that car of NASCAR's all-time winning driver in the NASCAR Hall, I may visit.

RIR display at Children's Museum gets preview
Sadler previews NASCAR exhibit at children's museum

NASCAR driver and Virginia native Elliott Sadler held his 2-year-old son, Wyatt, during the preview of the "When They Were Young" exhibit at the Children's Museum of Richmond. The Richmond International Raceway exhibit features childhood and adult pictures of NASCAR drivers from Virginia.

Photo by Mark Gormus, Richmond Times-Dispatch

By: Randy Hallman

Richmond Times-Dispatch
Published: March 22, 2012

Richmond, Va. --

When it's ready, in August, Richmond International Raceway's four-segment display will be one way the track tries to connect with potential new fans. On Wednesday, with a prototype of the first segment on display, the raceway seemed to be connecting.

About 200 people were at the Children's Museum of Richmond's in-town location for the unveiling of the "When They Were Young" prototype. The display will feature grown-up photos and childhood images of NASCAR drivers who call Virginia home. Participants will match the images.

Elliott Sadler of Emporia was on hand for Wednesday's unveiling. He liked the fact that the Children's Museum had one of Richard Petty's racing Pontiacs out front and a red racer from the earlier years of NASCAR's Modified series sitting a few feet away on the museum floor.

The red modified No. 11 car, he noted, had been driven by the late, great Ray Hendrick of Richmond. "That Flying Eleven," Sadler said, referring to the wings adorning the number on the side of Hendrick's car, "is probably the most famous paint scheme that has ever been a part of Virginia racing."

The display was unveiled with the help of Sadler's 2-year-old son, Wyatt, and the three children of RIR President Dennis Bickmeier: 8-year-old Joshua, 5-year-old Kaitlyn and 3-year-old Nathan.

By August, the then-and-now display will be joined by three other elements, explained Bickmeier: a race car for kids to see and perhaps climb into, a mock flag stand and a space where children assemble cars and roll them down the tracks they put together.

The display will travel among the Children's Museum's three locations in Richmond, western Henrico County and (to be opened later) Chesterfield County.

Museum officials said the museum already draws 360,000 visitors a year. Bickmeier said he hopes the display connects with them. "Auto racing isn't as self-recruiting as it used to be," Bickmeier said. "We need to let people know what a great sport we have."







updated by @dave-fulton: 11/23/20 09:39:08PM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/22/12 01:24:27PM
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Another Bruton Smith Lawsuit Dismissed


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From The Charlotte Observer:

Monday, Mar. 19, 2012
Judge dismisses speedways lawsuit
Concord settled for $2.8million to end dispute

By Lukas Johnson

After more than four years of wrangling and deal-making, a Superior Court judge has dismissed a lawsuit against Cabarrus County by Bruton Smith, owner of Charlotte Motor Speedway.

Superior Court Judge Robert Ervin dismissed the lawsuit over development incentives Smith says he is owed.

Speedway representatives have 30 days to file an appeal and say they are considering whether to do so.

The dismissal March 9 comes more than five years after speedway owner Bruton Smith threatened to move Charlotte Motor Speedway out of the area.

That threat came after Concords City Council declined to approve Smiths plans for a drag strip across U.S. 29 from the main track, citing neighbors concerns about noise.

Smiths threat prompted city, county, tourism and other leaders to try many ways of courting Smith to keep him from moving the speedway.

City and county leaders went on to forge an $80million incentives package and offer it to Smith in late 2007. As part of that deal, Smith would build the $60million drag strip and make $200million worth of improvements around the track. Part of the disagreement centers on how much of the $80million the city agreed to provide out of its own budget.

Smith filed the suit in Cabarrus County Superior Court in September 2009, seeking $4million in compensation from the city and county for roadwork and other improvements around the speedway and zMax Dragway. The suit was dropped in hopes that the parties might come to an out-of-court agreement, but it was re-filed May 27, 2011.

Jared Gardner, an attorney with James, McElroy & Diehl in Charlotte, which is representing Smith, said appealing the dismissal is among the options attorneys, Smith and the speedway are considering.

We want the county to honor its commitment of funding $80million in infrastructure improvements, he said. Were asking for whats stated in the amended complaint.

Cabarrus County attorney Richard Koch said the county was never contractually obligated to fund improvements, nor was there a public hearing or a vote by county commissioners on the matter.

There were just so many things wrong with the posture of the lawsuit, said Koch. You can pick at least a half-dozen reasons it had no merit.

The people who deal with most of the issues over there are the people of the city, Koch said. They have the water and sewer; they control the zoning. Those are all city responsibilities, but what started the whole thing was a zoning dispute. The county had no say over that.

Koch said there was an attempt to work something out, but it required speedway to commit to keeping the speedway in Concord.

We gave a number of different reasons why the judge should dismiss it, Koch said. The judge didnt articulate a single one, so, since he didnt state a specific reason, we presume he agreed with the reasons contended by the county.

One reason was that no formal agreement was ever put in writing, and the county Board of Commissioners never took any formal action to approve an agreement. Koch also said business terms were never worked out and nothing ever was put in writing.

We sent over documents, and they said no, but they didnt forge a comprise agreement or counterproposal, said Koch. The countys position was they would never commit to what they said they were willing to do without a commitment from the speedway to stay, which was main thing that never happened.

We could never get together to have a meeting of the minds and hammer out how the agreement was going to work. When it was time to put it on paper, the speedway never appeared willing to make commitments on their part.

Unless the speedway appeals, the county has been relieved of any obligation.

Concord and the speedway reached a deal in June 2011 that included promises of support to the speedway worth $2.8million. Concord, which had three years to pay off the settlement amount, has already paid the entire amount using reserve funds.

Concord Mayor Scott Padgett said the citys settlement was necessary for the continued development of the area.

The settlement allowed the city to acquire easements, engineering documents and public rights-of-way throughout the speedway property to make development possible. The deal is intended to ease traffic congestion, support development of the Carolina Thread Trail and help with improvements throughout the Interstate 85 Exit 49 area.

The reason we came to an agreement is that when the speedway was built in the 60s, it wasnt in the (Concord) city limits. It was a very rural property operating off septic tanks and wells, said Padgett. It was a very reasonable settlement, because we received tangible assets that will benefit the way we can access our utilities in the future.

Its very significant, and it lays to rest any issues we couldve had with accessing these utilities. We obtained tangible benefits.

The speedway asked the city to annex it and provide water and sewer service in 1987, and the City Council approved the annexation.

As the sport grew, they realized a need for water and sewer to serve the thousands and thousands of fans, said Padgett. It was in our long-term best interest to install utilities, but we havent had clear rights-of-way to access utilities, and certain water issues needed to be cleared up for years.

The city also obtained speedway easements along south side of Rocky River for Carolina Thread Trail, a regional network of trails and greenways.

The speedway, off Exit 49 of Interstate 85, sits near another top tourist draw: Concord Mills mall. Traffic volume in the Exit 49 area is projected to grow by 30percent in a decade, according to the city.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/03/17/3102864/judge-dismisses-speedways-lawsuit.html#storylink=misearch#storylink=cpy


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM
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