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Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/06/12 05:20:11PM
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My Dad Founded NASCAR – An Interview With Little Red Vogt


Stock Car Racing History

Lotta folks have tried to re-invent NASCAR history.

This is an excellent story.

The past several months I have been in contact with my old employer, the Richmond race track (now ISC owned) because they started a PR campaign celebrating "60 Years of NASCAR" beginning with Lee Petty's win there in a 1953 Grand National race.

I asked if they had ever heard of the very first NASCAR race held in the Commonwealth of Virginia staged at their site in 1948 by the tennis pro at the Country Club of Virginia? It was a NASCAR Modified race won by Red Byron in a Raymond Parks owned car wrenched by Red Vogt. They were dumbstruck and said they hadn't had access to that kind of information. I told them all they needed to do was to look in any RIR press kit I prepared in my 10 years there or any news release during NASCAR's 1998 50th Anniversary season, also the 50th Anniversary of NASCAR racing at Richmond.

Needless to say, I am not the current best friend of the Richmond track which continues to promote 60 years of NASCAR instead of the appropriate 65 years.

I wish Little Red all the success in the world in correcting the negligence of the powers that be.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/06/12 03:57:04PM
9,138 posts

The Right Kind of Grand Marshal & Honorary Starter - Thanks Martinsville


Current NASCAR

Should have known we could count on Clay Campbell at Martinsville Speedway to carry on in the manner of his late grandfather, Clay Earles and do it the RIGHT WAY at Martinsville.

After all the hokum of Daytona and Phoenix, how refreshing to see some genuinely great choices for Grand Marshal and Honorary Starter positions.

Thank you Clay. They should be so blessed to have a few folk in Daytona with your knowledge and backbone.

Sinise Named Grand Marshal, Kerns Honorary Starter

3/6/2012

Wounded war veteran Marine Cpl. Josh J.B. Kerns, 22, of Patrick County (left) is seen with actor and military activist Gary Sinise on Feb. 9 at Martinsville Speedway. (Bulletin photo by Mike Wray)

Award-winning actor Gary Sinise.

With only 27 days until the headache-inducing, short-track Goodys Fast Relief 500 race at Martinsville Speedway, Goodys announced today that award-winning actor Gary Sinise will serve as the grand marshal; while local hero and wounded veteran Marine Cpl. Josh J.B. Kerns will wave the green flag to start the 500-lap event on April 1.

Sinise, currently starring on CBS CSI:NY, launched the Gary Sinise Foundation in 2011, a non-profit organization that honors defenders, veterans, first responders, their families and those in need by creating and supporting unique programs designed to entertain, educate, inspire, strengthen and build communities. For more information, go to www.GarySiniseFoundation.org .

Recently, the Gary Sinise Foundation and The Stephen Siller Tunnel to Towers Foundation (named after a fallen firefighter on 9/11), announced a partnership to build Kerns a smart home in his hometown of Ararat, Va., as part of the Building For America's Bravest Program. Throughout the Goody's Fast Relief 500 weekend, efforts will be underway to raise funds and awareness, including a concert with Sinise's Lt. Dan Band at Martinsville High School on March 31. To make donations to Building For America's Bravest Program, you can go to http://www.garysinisefoundation.org/help_us/donate or https://tunneltotowersfoundation.org/donate_now.aspx .

The Goodys Fast Relief 500 will be Sinises first time reciting the most famous words in racingGentlemen, Start Your Engines.

The Goodys Fast Relief 500 weekend is going to be an unforgettable weekend, bringing together the best racing in the world with an amazing effort to help J.B., said Sinise. I am so grateful to Goodys, Martinsville Speedway and the community for allowing us to be a part of this weekend.

Kerns, a long-time fan of racing, will serve as the Goodys Fast Relief 500 honorary starter. He was injured in Afghanistan in April 2011 when an IED exploded, costing him both legs and his right arm. Since that explosion, Kerns has endured tremendous pain, having undergone extensive surgeries and strenuous daily physical and occupational therapy in Bethesda, Md.

When I was growing up I remember sitting down with my family on the weekends and watching the NASCAR races, said Kerns. And now, its awesome to think that I am going to be the one waving the flag thats going to start the race.

Goodys and BC Powders are known for providing fast relief for tough pain, said Joseph Juliano, brand director for Goodys and BC Powders. Being on the front line, in terms of helping those in need and serving our country in combat, Gary and J.B. demonstrate that painful moments can come unexpectedly. We hope the roles were giving them for our race become a source of relief and joy in some small way. We salute the commitment and service of both men and look forward to a fantastic Goodys Fast Relief 500.

Tickets to the Goodys Fast Relief 500 at Martinsville Speedway are on sale. For more information, call 877.722.3849 or visit www.martinsvillespeedway.com . For more information about Goodys Headache Powder, visit www.goodyspowder.com .


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/06/12 11:34:25AM
9,138 posts

Cody's Amazing Florida Adventure


General

I think Cody has been holding back on us. He didn't even tell us he'd gone down to Florida - for Speedweeks, I guess. Now the truth is out as reported in the Palm Beach newspaper and posted online on YouTube. I hope Cody never tries this stunt at the race track.

Lesson for prank-pulling teens: Dont mess with golfers

Frank Cerabino

Monday, March 5, 2012 | 6:10 p.m.

Apparently, youre not allowed to repeatedly flog somebody with a metal pole if he or she intentionally interrupts your concentration as you tee off on a golf course.

Thought Id pass that on. Just in case anyones tempted.

Im not much of a golfer, so Im not sure if the surprise blast of an air horn would affect my swing for the better or worse. But there are those who take the silence-is-golden bit of etiquette far more seriously.

Im thinking of two golfers in particular, a pair of 71-year-old men who ended up going to jail for their freelance enforcement of this audible breach in decorum on a Florida Panhandle golf course recently.

Ronald Richardson and Donald Nieto were on the ninth tee at Shalimar Pointe Country Club when four teenage boys thought it would be funny to sound an air horn when the two men were swinging, according to an Okaloosa County sheriffs report.

The teens imagined that they were unreachable as they hid in some nearby woods, on private property separated from the course by a chain-link fence.

After the horn sounded, the golfers walked toward the boys, who scooted away. One of the golfers, club still in hand, tried to climb the fence but soon gave up.

The boys didnt make a clean getaway, though. One of them dropped his jacket near the fence. The golfers, spotting the jacket, got their telescoping ball retriever poles from their golf bags.

One of the teens, seeing that the golfers were about to take his jacket, ran back toward them.

Oh, you cannot do that! the teenager kept yelling. Thats stealing!

And when the boy got in range, the two men forgot about the jacket and began walloping him over and over again with their poles, while the teen stood there with his hands near his head as his friends sounded the air horn repeatedly.

The whole prank was videotaped by one of the boys, who left his camera running through the entire incident. He can be heard giggling as his friend is being whacked repeatedly with long lightweight poles, which were bent out of shape by the beating.

The boy posted the video on YouTube, entitling it golf course beating poor Cody, (you can see it above) and put an explanatory note with it:

We were not on golf course property so we didnt think anything bad could happen to us, i guess that wasnt true ... yeah it was a stupid prank and we shouldve thought more about it before we did it, but beating cody with golfball retrievers hard enough to break them wasnt right.

Codys father didnt think it was right, either. And even though the 15-year-old boy wasnt hurt from the beating, the father showed up at the golf course with his son to complain about the golfers. A sheriffs deputy was called, and after looking at the boys video, the golfers were identified.

Richardson, a Canadian snowbird, and Nieto, a local retiree, were still in the clubhouse.

But not for long. After being questioned by the deputy, both men were charged with child abuse, a third-degree felony, and booked at the county jail.

Unlike nearly every other child abuse case, the victim in this one isnt getting a generous outpouring of sympathy.

They should have beaten him harder. And with bigger sticks, one poster to the YouTube video wrote.

Hahaha, you got beat by a couple of old men, another wrote.

Frank Cerabino writes for The Palm Beach Post.


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:02:07PM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/06/12 11:03:33AM
9,138 posts

Best Tony Stewart Line (regarding his trouble at Phoenix)


Current NASCAR

I thought the best line regarding Tony Stewart not being able to refire his car after he cut it off intentionally at Phoenix came from Tony himself when he responded, "That's not my department" to a reporter asking what happened.

Well, duhhhhh....

Being as how Mr. Stewart IS the car owner, ALL departments are his. Where has he been hiding all these years?

Now, through the reporting of Godwin Kelly, I have seen a better line describing Tony's problem:

The ECU (engine control unit) for the EFI went MIA after being shut off. Stewart will get an answer ASAP, probably from a guy with a BSE (Bachelor of Science degree in engineering) from MIT.


No backyard mechanics with a chain hoist and strong tree limb and working knowledge of how to tune carburetor jets need apply for jobs in today's NASCAR.


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/13/12 09:10:04PM
9,138 posts

Cheating No Longer Funny Opines Long-time Racing Writer Larry Woody


Current NASCAR

As far as explaining it to your family, let me say this....

My father before he died became a huge race fan and fan of Ray Hendrick in the modifieds in particular after accompanying me to Southside, South Boston, Old Dominion, Langley Field and Beltsville.

We decided to take my mother one night to Southside Speedway in the mid-60s. When we returned home, my late mother who never cursed said, "I would rather be in hell with a broken back than ever go to another race."

She also never understood me associating with what she called "Those people."

Until her death we agreed to disagree, but with respect for each other.

I think that is where we probably are opinion wise.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/13/12 07:48:33PM
9,138 posts

Cheating No Longer Funny Opines Long-time Racing Writer Larry Woody


Current NASCAR

My original opening comment at the beginning of the post referred to an Editorial Writer for the Charlotte Observer - Peter St. Onge - whose sports writing had mostly been confined (to my knowledge) to covering SEC College athletics. He had written a very derogatory editorial last week about NASCAR comparing it to the purity of SEC college competition.

I thought Larry Woody having covered hundreds of NASCAR races, as well as SEC, was mush more qualified to offer an opinion on the subject of NASCAR and cheating.

No different rules to my knowledge for posters, but I didn't like the editorial writer using the Observer Editorial page as a forum for a subject he seemed to have little knowledge of.

Then again, I don't make the rules, lol!

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/13/12 03:49:16PM
9,138 posts

Cheating No Longer Funny Opines Long-time Racing Writer Larry Woody


Current NASCAR

I can't imagine where our "sport" would be today without a laundry list over the years of outstanding writers (I could name tons, but it would take far too much space) who got many of us interested and covered racing BEFORE television and BEFORE most fans could obtain a radio broadcast of an event.

Many of those writers' names such as Bloys Britt now adorn the doors leading into the fancy media centers at today's modern racetracks.

I don't know whether Chris Economaki could change a spark plug, but he could sure write racing.

If it were a requirement for writers to have technical knowledge of race cars, I doubt we'd have had too much NASCAR coverage since that first 1948 NASCAR race. In fact, most fans get bored very quickly when the race writing turns technical rather than focusing on the personalities and competition. All of that tech writing is best left to enthusiast publications, not the general reading audience.

Are there some writers who are/were idiots? Surely. Have you ever met any crew, crew chiefs or car owners who were/are idiots? I surely have. Thank goodness I didn't have to rely on them for my race coverage. Some of them were extremely well known within the sport for avoiding the truth at all costs. You can interpret that as being liars if you like because that is what they were.

I've also been in situations where many, many serious thousands of hard to come by dollars were paid to technical folk who thoroughly screwed up a race car to the point that it missed a very important event. I'm sure I'm not the only person that has happened to.

Can I change spark plugs? Yes.

Could I change points and condenser and set timing? I used to.

Can I advise you on your EFI? No.

Would I recognize cheating if I saw it? Probably not.

Do I know anything about spring rates? No.

Am I technically oriented? No.

Did I get Dale Earnhardt to sign his first personal services contract? Yes.

Was I involved in Richard Childress giving up driving? Yes.

Was I involved in getting the Petty family and Wood family together? Yes.

Have I "discovered" driving talent in the northwest and brought a driver south who won the Daytona 500? Yes.

Have I brokered sponsorships for tracks, drivers and team owners? Yes.

Can I build a race car? No.

Do I know much about the shady areas? No.

Can I write about racing? Many think so.

Have I contributed anything to racing? Well, In 1983 Grand National Scene Newspaper named me as "The Individual Contributing the Most to NASCAR Stock Car Racing." BUT, that was a bunch of writers who made the award, lol!

Personally, I don't think racing would have ever made it to a big stage if we were just dependent on crew chiefs. There was a reason that old Big Bill France Senior used to pay the travel expenses including motel bill for top writers to come cover the Daytona and Talladega races. Bill France, Senior didn't think writers were stupid. He thought they were valuable assets to promote the advancement of NASCAR stock car racing.

It has been my personal experience that most top car owners and crew chiefs after the fact are not shy at all to call cheating cheating. They didn't consider it a gray area. They knew exactly what they were doing and hoped to get away with it.

I'm kinda ready to puke over all this stretching the envelope and gray area talk. If you can get away with it, more power to you. But, call it what it is.

I guess that's why I loved the MEN like Bud Moore and Paul Sawyer so much. They called a spade a spade. No tippy toe crap for them. Real racers.

In fact, my best remembered racing quote of all time (written down of course, by a writer) was one of Bud's quotes as related in the 1972 Brock Yates book, SUNDAY DRIVER.

Bud had returned to NASCAR after winning several SCCA Trans-Am Championships. Brock was interviewing Bud beside the pool at a Michigan motel before a M.I.S. NASCAR race.

Why, asked Mr. Yates, did it cost so much more money to run the NASCAR Grand National circuit than to race in the SCCA Trans-Am Series?

After spitting a stream of tobacco juice down wind and with his tongue hanging out of the corner of his mouth, Bud Moore answered the question Yates had posed. It was a simple three word answer. "CHEATING IS EXPENSIVE!"

Bud didn't say stretching the envelope was expensive or trying to tippy toe around the gray area was expensive. He said CHEATING was expensive.

Did those championship winning car builders call it gray or stretching? Nope. They called it cheating and knew they needed to out cheat their competitors to maintain an advantage.

In one of his books, former driver Sam Posey tells of walking by Bud's crew as they were changing tires after going through SCCAA Trans-Am tech at Kent, Washington in 1970. Sam says he went to roll a tire back to the boys, but it was so heavy he couldn't roll it. Bud had those tires for pre-race tech weigh-in filled with sand.

Parnelli Jones won that September 20, 1970 Kent 200 Trans-Am race for Bud Moore enroute to the 1970 Trans-Am season championship. Posey was third that day behind Jones and second place Mark Donohue in the Roger Penske Camaro.

I asked Bud about the 1970 Kent race 12 years later and what Posey had said. Bud laughed and laughed. He said that wasn't the best cheating they did that day. Bud said they were running an oversized fuel container and that Roger Penske protested after the race.

SCCA officials made Bud drain his tank and they refilled it. According to Bud it was dark. Instead of completely draining the tank, Bud had two crew members "pass water" in the dirt and make a sizable puddle. We'd have never gotten away with it in NASCAR, but the SCCA sporty car officials weren't used to cheating he said.

Flash forward.

My personal opinion is that it takes all sorts to put on a successful racing campaign.

Writers have been an integral part of fueling the growth of stock car racing.

Writers aren't stupid because they can't build a race car. Crew chiefs aren't stupid because they can't write a news release. Takes all types to reach the pinnacle where we'd all like to see stock car racing.

If folks like a multi-time time National Championship car owner/crew chief in NASCAR and SCCA like Bud Moore can call cheating cheating, why can't the rest of us?

I find it very offensive personally to see a post that is so overtly sanctimonious as to say, ""I can build a race car and you can't so your opinion doesn't count."

Again, I think it takes lots of types of talent to "Put on the Show" as Big Bill used to say. It's all important, but let's call cheating what it is and quit making up name for it.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/13/12 12:11:18PM
9,138 posts

Cheating No Longer Funny Opines Long-time Racing Writer Larry Woody


Current NASCAR

I always remember Ricky Rudd telling me one time in 1983 flying from Greensboro to Spartanburg to interview with Bud Moore that he could tell me exactly how he got such great gas mileage when he drove the DiGard Gatorade car for Gary Nelson. He said, "I could tell you exactly how and where he ran the extra gas lines in my car, but I won't because I might need to drive for him again."

Honor among thieves - no.... just being realistic I guess that everybody stretches it to the limit and above looking for a winning edge.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
03/07/12 03:05:48PM
9,138 posts

Cheating No Longer Funny Opines Long-time Racing Writer Larry Woody


Current NASCAR

I think you make a very valid case and summary.

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