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Dave Fulton
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09/02/11 04:53:59PM
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Wendell Scott vs. Willy T. Ribbs - Willy in the News Today


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One other thing, PKL...

The Baltimore Sun has on its staff one of the country's finest and most knowledgeable racing writers, Sandra McKee, who has covered many NASCAR races, including all of ours at Richmondand is a heck of a reporter. It's a shamed they didn't let her look over the piece, but they are using the shotgun method of coverage, as is usual, if a paper wants to do lots of features. I know Sandy is still there because I just read her 2:00 pm update about today's 5 hour delay getting cars on the track due to open intersections and having to put fences back up after being taken down for high winds. According to Sandy, the USF 2000 Series will have no qualifying due to time constraints.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
09/02/11 03:22:08PM
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Wendell Scott vs. Willy T. Ribbs - Willy in the News Today


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PKL,

Thanks for posting the entire article. I make no apology, though,for e-mailing the author and suggesting he look around Baltimore at Beltsville and Old Dominion and learn of Wendell Scott's exploits before coining "Jackie Robinson of racing" terminology about Willy T. It was very obvious the author knew nothing of racing, as you so accurately point out and had an assignment handed him for which he was not prepared.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
09/02/11 03:17:58PM
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Wendell Scott vs. Willy T. Ribbs - Willy in the News Today


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Thanks, Wally. As always, the discussion has made me remember something long forgotten.... another of the great characters I met in NASCAR. Back in 1981, many of the teams still didn't have 18 wheelers and you saw maybe 1-2 black team members in the garage. When we took the Wrangler sponsorship to Bud Moore in 1982, for example, one provision of the contract was that Bud start using an 18 wheeler to replace the "bob" truck/tandem trailer he used. We would pay the cost to paint it. Most teams if they had a big rig, leased or borrowed the tractor. Anyway, around that time, 30 or so years ago, Richard Childress struck a deal with Anderson & Webb Trucking of Mt. Airy, NC (birthplace/hometown of Andy Griffith and model for the fictitious Mayberry) to supply a tractor to pull his rig as part of an associate sponsorship deal. Along with the tractor came a driver from Anderson & Webb Trucking- not just any driver, though. The driver was the very personable and very black Freddie Webb , who preferred to be called by his nickname - "Stroker." Freddie was one of those guys you liked immediately. He was a real life cross between "Shaft" and "SuperFly" who could talk jive, redneck or corporate, depending on the circumstances and the company. The unmarriedStroker's greatest contribution to the racing set, though, was his constant sharing of various secret methods to pick up and entertain members of the opposite sex. When Stroker walked in and sat down at a table in one of the hotel/motel bars on the racing circuit, that table and surrounding ones immediately filled up with rival crew members wanting to hear the latest tales and newest techniques to keep the opposite sex happy. Stroker was a real character, a colorful one at that, with no reference to his skin color. The last time I saw Stroker was in the lobby bar of the old Sheraton on. U.S. Route 1 in Southern Pines, NC during a fall Rockingham weekend. As far as I know, Stroker was a pretty good truck driver. There's absolutely no doubt, though, that he could spin a tale. The last time I saw him, the tall tales competition was intense. We shared a table with the late Joe Whitlock and former Detroit Lions linebacker, turned actor, "Mad Dog" Alex Karras. The tales flowed along with the refreshments, but nobody topped Stroker.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
09/02/11 12:49:05PM
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Wendell Scott vs. Willy T. Ribbs - Willy in the News Today


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I failed to cover sexist. Before the start of the 1984 NASCAR season, I had a major disagreement with my Wrangler Jeans superiors over their refusal to allow me to promote my female secretary to be my Assistant Manager, Wrangler NASCAR Special Events. She was more than qualified, having worked behind the scenes for me for 3 years on the program, and knew our sales force, retailers and marketing strategy. However, I was told that a female couldn't cut it working around NASCAR. Funny thing is, almost a year to the day after I left Wrangler for 7-Eleven, the Wrangler NASCAR program management was handed over to a female who had led the Rodeo program, and my former secretary was named Assistant Manager... a year too late in my opinion.I have also had a female business partner in the past, however I doin't recommend that... female or male.
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
09/02/11 12:05:32PM
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Wendell Scott vs. Willy T. Ribbs - Willy in the News Today


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Wally,

I could care less if Willy T. Ribbs was sky blue pink and I certainly hope that you are not suggesting that I am racist, because if so, I would like to set the record straight. It's his attitude, demeanor, irresponsiblity, hedging of the truth, that cast my opinion of the man. To even have the audacity to suggest he was/is "the Jackie Robinson of racing" is just a downright misstatement.; I was around when Sam Belnavis, the former head of Miller Brewing Sports Marketing in theBobby Allison days tried to shop Willy around NASCAR a second time and he was the same. The leopard hadn't changed its spots.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
08/31/11 06:48:28PM
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Wendell Scott vs. Willy T. Ribbs - Willy in the News Today


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In case you hadn't heard, the City of Baltimore is hosting the Baltimore Grand Prix IndyCar race on city streets this weekend. Today's Baltimore Sun paper has a feature story about the return of Willy T. Ribbs and proclaiming him "the Jackie Robinson of racing." That rubbed me the wrong way. I sent the writer of the piece a little e-mail and told him if he looked around he'd find Beltsville Speedway and Old Dominion, both venues where the late Wendell Scott competed and who I'd argue is more rightly accorded the comparison to Jackie Robinson than Willy T. Ribbs. In the article Willy T. goes on to say he'd be the perfect replacement next year for Danica Patrick to bring attention to IndyCar. He further offers all of his worn out excuses about why he never made it in bigtime racing. He neglects to mention being arrested here in Charlotte and missing the race Humpy Wheeler lined him up for (in a Will Cronkrite car, I believe). Anyhow, I guess Baltimore is getting what it deserves when you spend taxpayer money to fund a race on city streets.

Baltimore Sun Story Link:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-08-31/sports/bs-sp-grand-prix-ribbs-0831-20110830-22_1_baltimore-grand-prix-racecar-driver-african-american-driver


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:02:07PM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
08/31/11 05:31:22PM
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One Writer's Top-10 Favorite "Incidents"


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Our recent discussions regarding on-track paybacks, etc. reminded me of a column Tom Higgins once authored naming 10 of his most remembered "incidents" at the track.Many I remember, how about you?

Why, in days of yore even the womenfolk of drivers were known to sometimes accost their loved one's rivals in a physical way. And on at least one occasion racing teams banded together to battle irate fans.

I've compiled a personal Top Ten list, which follows in reverse order.


10. David Pearson, the legendary Silver Fox who posted 105 victories, second on the alltime list, had a very long fuse and seldom lost his temper.

But in July of 1984 at the Firecracker 400 in Daytona Beach, the veteran Pearson was in no mood to listen to complaints from brassy Tim Richmond. After the race Richmond approached Pearson to voice displeasure about a tangle they'd had on the track.

Richmond got out about two words before Pearson punched him in the eye.

Richmond had to wear sunglasses for two weeks to hide the shiner.

9. Feuds raged regularly in the early 1950s when there sometimes were several races per week on short tracks, where sheet metal was beaten and banged almost constantly. Among the bitterest rivals were Curtis Turner and Bobby Myers.

One night they clashed repeatedly at a dirt track. After the race, Turner was washing the grit from his face near his car on pit road when Myers approached from behind, wielding a 2-by-4 board. Turner, sensing trouble, pulled a .38 pistol from his pocket and turned around with the barrel pointed at Myers' belly.

"Where do you think you're going with that board?" demanded Turner.

"I think I'm going to find a place to put it down," answered a surprised, but discreet, Myers.

And he did.

8. At the Talladega 500 of 1981 driver Morgan Shepherd got into an altercation before the race with a crew chief and team members--his own.

Car owner Cliff Stewart had brought in Darrell Bryant to lead the team. The morning of the race Bryant and Shepherd disagreed on procedures. They started a scuffle in the garage area that crewmen joined.

Three days later Stewart released Shepherd and hired Joe Millikan to drive the car.

7. Kyle Petty and the late Alan Kulwicki were racing for position at Michigan International Speedway in June of 1990 when they swapped sheet metal on the last lap.

Petty, feeling he was crowded too closely, accosted Kulwicki in the garage and pinned him on a work table. "Hit me again on the track and it'll be too bad," Petty stormed at Kulwicki, who wisely had kept on his helmet.

Kulwicki apologized, and two weeks later, after things had cooled a bit, he approached Kyle asking for advice. "Kyle," Kulwicki said seriously, "do you think I ought to take karate?"

6. Richard Petty and Bobby Allison clashed so frequently in the early 1970s that their crews began fortifying the cars to withstand the pounding they knew was coming.

The rivalry came to a head in the Wilkes 400 of 1972 at North Wilkesboro Speedway as they dueled for the victory. The two repeatedly smashed into each other over the final five laps. Petty was two car-lengths ahead of Allison's smoking machine at the finish.

"He could have put me in the boondocks," fumed Petty. "He's playing with my life out there and I don't like it."

Countered Allison: "The other competitor had to wreck me to win, and that's what he did. I had so much smoke in my car I could hardly see."

After the race an incensed Allison fan managed to reach Petty and attacked him. Maurice Petty whacked the intruder over the head with his brother's helmet as officers moved into make an arrest.

5. Team members fought fans in August of 1961 in the North Carolina mountains at Asheville-Weaverville Speedway, a track that no longer exists.

Disgruntled spectators blocked the exit from the infield when the Western N.C. 500 was stopped after only 258 laps because the asphalt track was disintegrating. Most teams were held hostage for four hours as a crowd of about 4,000 demanded more laps or a partial refund of theier ticket price.

A Barney Fife-type deputy sherriff who sought to mediate the dispute was picked up by the rioters and thrown into a pond.

Finally, Pop Ergle, a 6-6, 285-pound crewman for the Bud Moore-owned team, wrestled a board from a menacing fan and waded into the crowd, breaking the siege.

4. Two of the biggest stars in motorsports, Dale Earnhardt and Rusty Wallace, faced off angrily at Bristol Motor Speedway following a night race in the mid-1990s.

Wallace had been spun while leading by a tap from behind by Earnhardt, who went on to win the race.

An angry Wallace, his face as red as his hair, accosted Earnhardt after they got out of their cars. NASCAR officials and crew members strained to keep them apart.

"I'm not forgettin' this Dale!" shouted Wallace. When Earnhardt grinned, Wallace became even more enraged and hurled an empty plastic water bottle at his rival. The bottle bounced off Earnhardt's nose.

I've always contended that Dale was lucky. In the '50s and '60s that water bottle likely would have been a tire tool.

3. Crews scuffled at the track then known as Charlotte Motor Speedway after drivers Darrell Waltrip and Rusty Wallace tangled in The Winston all-star race of 1989.

Contact sent leader Waltrip spinning as the rich event wound down, enabling Wallace to win.

As Wallace headed to Victory Lane, a Waltrip crewman kicked the car. A spirited melee ensued until officials were able to break it up.

A quote that endures in NASCAR lore resulted.

"Somebody bit by little brother John's ear almost off," huffed Wallace's crew chief, Barry Dodson. "I think it was very unprofessional."

2. Among the fiercest personal rivals ever were NASCAR pioneer Lee Petty and the late free spirit, Tiny Lund. The strapping 6-7 Lund drove a second car a few races for Petty in the 1950s, but there was a falling out and hard feelings grew and grew.

At a race in Greensboro, the two passed on a stage during pre-race driver introductions. Words were exchanged, followed shortly by blows.

Lund pounded the smaller Petty, leading the latter's teenage sons, Richard and Maurice, to join the fray. Lund was knocking all three Pettys around until Lee's wife, Elizabeth, came to the rescue of her husband and sons. Mrs. Petty began thumping Lund in the head with her purse, raising pumpknots.

"It broke up pretty quick when Momma started swinging that pocketbook," Richard still recalls with a smile.

The purse was even more of a weapon because it had a pistol inside.

1. It was Cale Yarborough versus the "tag team" of Donnie and Bobby Allison in a wild fracas at the conclusion of the 1979 Daytona 500.

Donnie and Cale crashed each other while battling for the lead in Turn 3 on the final lap, enabling Richard Petty to zoom by and win.

As Petty took the checkered flag, Donnie and Cale squared off on the track apron. Bobby stopped to aid his brother. Fists, helmets, elbows and feet flew.

"All I know is that suddenly I found Cale Yarborough's nose pounding on my knuckles," Bobby Allison cracked afterward.

Coincidentally, it was CBS' first live flag-to-flag telecast of the 500. An estimated 20 million watched as a blizzard blanketed most of America, snowing folks in and creating a captive audience.

NASCAR assessed nominal fines against Yarborough and both Allison and put all three on probation.

In retrospect, the sanctioning body should have awarded the trio big bonuses. Their skirmish widely is regarded as the catalyst behind stock car racing's booming popularity.


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Dave Fulton
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08/31/11 03:11:01PM
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Tiger Tom's Never to be Broken Record


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As a high school senior in Richmond, VA on May 15, 1966, our RR member and poster "Tiger" Tom Pistone gave me and my buddies one of our most cherished NASCAR memories. On that 1966 spring Sunday in Richmond, driving his powder blue #59 1964 Ford Galaxie, Tiger Tom blistered theold dirt 1/2-mile Richmond Fairgrounds layout with a record, all-timeNASCAR Grand National pole qualifying speed of 70.978 mph - a record that stands to this very day and will never be broken. Only 3 more dirt races were run on the Richmond track before it was paved for the September 1968 GN race and nobody ever again approached Tiger Tom's 1 lap speed record on the dirt.

1966 was an unusual year in NASCAR. Ford factory boss, Jacques Passino led a Ford factory boycott of NASCAR in retaliation for NASCAR not approving the FORD overhead cam engine, but allowing a return of the Chrysler hemis. For a short while, Bill France allowed Ford to run two 4-barrel carburetors on it's 427, to my knowledge the only time NASCAR allowed this configuration.

For the 1966 Richmond 250 Tom had that engine setup in his Ford and he, along with Elmo Langley in another 1964 Ford, both earned top-5 starting positions, Elmo in 3rd place, besting the Chrysler hemis of Petty and Pearson, along with the rest of the 30 car starting field. James Hylton managed to put his '65 Dodge between Tom and Elmo in qualifying.

When all was said and done, Tom posteda 15th place finish that day, exiting on lap151 with engine failure and earning a whopping $150, same purse as earned by 14th place finisher Larry Manning, last car to fall out of the race on lap 175 of 250.

The final finish order that day shows 1st to David Pearson in his Cotton Owens Dodge by two laps oversecond place Richard Petty in his Petty Enterprises Plymouth, with third to JT Putney in his independent Chevy.

To this day I feel priviliged to tell folks that I saw Tiger Tom Pistone set a NASCAR track record that will never be broken on a track that I dearly loved. Thanks for the memories, Tom. You deserve more recognition for your accomplishments. Regardless of how many years may pass, nobody will ever best what you did at Paul Sawyer's Richmond dirt track in that #59 Galaxie on May 15, 1966! For those of you who never saw a NASCAR Grand National stock car kick up a roostertail of dirt as it slid sideways, you are part of the underprivileged NASCAR generation.


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Dave Fulton
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08/31/11 01:22:18PM
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Tim Richmond Won Southern 500 25 Years Ago Today


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On August 31, 1986, the late Tim Richmond won the Southern 500 at Darlington in his last Darlington start. It was his only Darlington triumph in 12 overall Darlington Winston Cup starts.


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Dave Fulton
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09/02/11 12:20:43PM
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Randleman, NC NASCAR Day Festival Registration Deadline Today, August 31


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Tim, I don't have plans to attend, just stumbled on the info and noticed the vendor deadline so I posted it for anyone who might have a last minute urge.
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