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Dave Fulton
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10/13/13 11:13:50AM
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Racing History Minute - October 13, 1953


Stock Car Racing History

And here's an interesting Carl Burris finish from Ultimate Racing History. Carl was credited with a second place finish on the 2.5-mile Daytona oval on February 13, 1960 in the 250-mile NASCAR Modified-Sportsman race, although he was relieved by Marvin Panch on lap 60. Not a bad relief backup!

NASCARModified-Sportsman Race
Daytona International Speedway ,Daytona Beach,FL
February 13, 1960
100laps on 2.5 mile paved oval;250 miles

Fin St Driver # Owner Car Laps Money Status Laps Led
1 4 BubbaFarr 81 Roy Cook 1956 Ford 100 4,875 running
2 1 CarlBurris MarvinPanch 20 George Poole 1954 Ford Sportsman
3 12 SonnyBlack 80 1939 Chevrolet
4 18 BillyDeCoster 8 1957 Ford
5 14 GeneWhite 78 1955 Chevrolet
6 3 FireballRoberts 22 E.A. McQuaig 1955 Ford
7 9 LeePetty 87 McLane Engineering 1950 Oldsmobile
8 10 JoeWeatherly 24 Glen Wood 1954 Ford
9 40 BobbyJohns 72 1957 Chevrolet Sportsman
10 16 DickFoley 66 Richard Foley Sr. 1957 Chevrolet Sportsman
11 49 ChuckMahoney 53 Sam Carpenter 1953 Ford
12 34 BillWimble 33 Davie McCready 1936 Chevrolet Sportsman
13 6 JimmyThompson 50 Marion Cox 1955 Ford
14 50 JimHendrickson 47 Ralph Signoriello 1957 Ford
15 8 DonAllison 68 1955 Ford
16 52 FrankSecrist 28 Varner Brothers 1939 Chevrolet
17 5 EmanuelZervakis 85 Ralph Liemberger 1956 Chevrolet
18 67 NelsonMoore 36 1951 Chevrolet
19 JackEvans 67 1939 Ford
20 37 DickBlackwell 31 William Ed Brown 1957 Ford Sportsman
21 56 JeepHerbert 37 Albert Capara 1937 Ford Sportsman
22 45 BillChampion 27 Don Persicketti 1957 Ford Sportsman
23 33 LarryFlynn 14 1954 Ford
24 29 WallyDallenbach 56 1937 Chevrolet
25 55 GlennGuthrie 11 Allen Mothershead 1957 Ford
26 62 WilburFlower 2 Dick Darlington 1950 Oldsmobile
27 44 RickHenderson 16 Nelson Kinney 1954 Ford
28 27 ElmoLangley 1 Ratus Waters 1957 Ford
29 59 JimmySmith 39 James Smith 1937 Ford Sportsman
30 60 JimLerkins 54 George N. Rice 1954 Ford Sportsman
31 RuntHarris 09 1939 Ford
32 2 BanjoMatthews 49 Melvin Joseph 1955 Ford engine
33 BenBentz 58 1957 Chevrolet
34 58 VinceConrad 57 Marv Conrad 1937 Ford Sportsman
35 68 CurtisCrider 23 Curtis Crider 1955 Ford Sportsman
36 TommyHerbert 76 1939 Ford
37 31 TinyLund 91 John Lowery 1949 Chevrolet
38 57 DickNephew 6 Earl Nephew 1937 Ford Sportsman
39 7 RedFarmer 97 J.M. Fitzgibbons 1957 Chevrolet
40 17 RoyTyner 21 Britt-Howard 1957 Ford
41 66 SpudMurphy 17 Gil Baum 1951 Plymouth
42 24 RedsKagle 59 Melvin Joseph 1940 Ford accident
43 64 PerkBrown 45 William Mason 1956 Chevrolet
44 11 AlHager 43 Robert Mueller 1955 Chevrolet
45 54 WendellScott 89 1953 Ford
46 ClydeGoff 48 1955 Ford
47 DickJoslin 71 1939 Plymouth
48 41 HookerHood 99 Johnny Neuman 1950 Chevrolet
49 30 BobRosselle 46 1938 Chevrolet
50 13 EdFlemke 34 Francis Dionne 1953 Studebaker 0 accident 0
51 15 LarryFrank 30 Roy D. Smith 1953 Plymouth 0 accident 0
52 19 StanKross 40 1957 Chevrolet 0 accident 0
53 20 Joe LeeJohnson 77 Billie Ridgeway 1957 Chevrolet 0 accident 0
54 21 LarryThomas 92 Gilbert Briles 1956 Ford Sportsman 0 accident 0
55 22 JimParsley 70 1957 Chevrolet 0 accident 0
56 23 BillyRafter 82 1938 Chevrolet 0 accident 0
57 25 JohnnyRoberts 7 Roy Slayton 1957 Ford 0 accident 0
58 26 JoeHatcher 42 J.P. Cunningham 1953 Studebaker 0 accident 0
59 28 BillWark 25 Thomas Raymer 1953 Ford 0 accident 0
60 32 EarlBalmer 64 Melvin J. Black 1957 Chevrolet 0 accident 0
61 35 FrankRubritz 95 C.L. Butler 1956 Chevrolet 0 accident 0
62 36 DickFreeman 74 1939 Plymouth 0 accident 0
63 38 WillCagle 12 Lucky Jordan 1955 Chevrolet Sportsman 0 accident 0
64 39 BobHall 69 Charles Croft 1955 Ford 0 accident 0
65 42 SpeedyThompson 86 Guy Donald 1957 Ford 0 accident 0
66 43 CarlTyler 10 Steve Grega 1954 Ford Sportsman 0 accident 0
67 46 RalphEarnhardt 38 Lee Stewart 1957 Ford 0 accident 0
68 47 DeanPelton 29 Melvin Joseph 1937 Ford Sportsman 0 accident 0
69 48 JackMcLaughlin 26 Pete Ambrosia 1937 Ford Sportsman 0 accident 0
70 53 AceyTaylor 84 1937 Ford Sportsman 0 accident 0
71 61 JimmyMairs 19 Ray Walters 1957 Ford 0 accident 0
72 63 SonnyPalmer 01 1957 Chevrolet 0 accident 0
73 65 MartinSharpe 88 1957 Plymouth 0 accident 0
74 51 AlDeAngelo 18 William Miceika 1940 Ford 0 did not start 0
17 EarlMoss 21 Britt-Howard 1957 Ford 0 qualified car 0
CamGagliardi 15 1937 Ford 0 did not qualify 0

Notes: There was a 37-car accident on the first lap. 24 cars were unable to continue.
Marvin Panch relieved Carl Burris on lap 60. Time of race: 02:08:38
Average Speed: 116.612 MPH
Pole Speed: 62.505 seconds
Attendance: 25,000

Dave Fulton
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10/13/13 10:53:26AM
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Racing History Minute - October 13, 1953


Stock Car Racing History


That's a lot of work, Tim, to list all the finishers, but when I look up the names of the drivers I don't know there seem to be many interestiing stories... and sometimes no info at all. Other times I see a driver down in the results who didn't run many "big time" races, but who I watched at the weekly tracks. Thanks for all your efforts with these History Minutes.

5th place finisher, Carl Burris of Leaksville, NC (now part of Eden) is the kind of driver I'm talking about. He only ran 10 Cup/GN races and two Convertible events in his career, but I watched him every Friday night at Richmond's Southside Speedway battle our local modified stars and who knows how many races he won at Bowman-Gray Stadium in his career. Hugh Overcash can probably tell us, though!

Photo posted on Andy Towler's Carl Burris Memoriam page

In July 1959, Carl posted one of his biggest victories, when he beat the best NASCAR Modified Division drivers in the country on the 1-mile Trenton Speedway:

July 26, 1959
100-Mile NASCAR National Championship
Sportsman-Modified Stock Cars
2nd Annual Triple Header
NASCAR Sanctioned
Winner - Carl Burris

Carl Burris (NC)

Ray Hendrick (VA)

Reds Kagle (MD)

Al Tasnady (NJ)

Irv Taylor (NY)

Axel Anderson (NY)

Nick Dadian (NJ)

Ed ? (?)

Bob Rossell (NJ)

Jackie McLaughlin (NJ)

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
10/13/13 10:35:24AM
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ARE YOU READY TO RUUUUMMMBLE? ? ?


Current NASCAR

That side-by-side duel between Brad and Kasey is the kind of racing fans want to see... not that lay back single file crap like we see at IMS, even if Tony Stewart does call it racing.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
10/12/13 09:29:31PM
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Old Talladega Airport Photos & History


General

I wrote a news release about that old graveyard and the curses back in the early 80s for a Kyle Petty/CITGO Talladega press kit that the late Chris Economaki of National Speed Sport News and TV fame called the best he'd ever seen in a press kit. 'Scuse me for blowing my own horn, though.

Dave Fulton
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10/12/13 02:35:22PM
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Old Talladega Airport Photos & History


General

Most of know there are old runways crisscrossing the Talladega SuperSpeedway property. Here are a few neat old "before & after" photos and maps of the track found at www.airfields-freeman.com .

I figure our ghost track sleuths Bobby Williamson, Jim Wilmore and Dennis Andrews might need these various coordinates if ISC and NASCAR ever abandon the place.

Anniston Army Airfield, Talladega, AL

33.57 North / 86.06 West (East of Birmingham, AL)

Anniston AAF, as depicted on the November 1944 Birmingham Sectional Chart (courtesy of Chris Kennedy).

Photo of the Army Airfield while in use has not been located.


How many auto racing fans know that the Talladega Superspeedway

was built on the remains of an abandoned WW2-era Army Airfield?


Anniston was opened on October 19, 1942 as a sub-field of Courtland AAF, with a 5,300' hard-surfaced runway.


However, Anniston Army Airfield was not yet depicted at all

on the March 1943 14M Regional Aeronautical Chart (according to Chris Kennedy) .


Anniston was used as part of the Basic Flying School headquartered at Courtland

which utilized Vultee BT-13s for the Air Cadets

as well as a specialized 4-engine flying school that flew B-24s,

and a school for transition from B-24s to B-29s school opened up in early 1945.

The airfield was also used by the Army Airways Communication System with the 108 th AACS Squadron being assigned to the airfield.


The March 1944 US Army/Navy Directory of Airfields (courtesy of Ken Mercer)

described Anniston AAF as having a 5,300' hard-surfaced runway.


The earliest depiction of Anniston AAF which has been located

was on the November 1944 Birmingham Sectional Chart (courtesy of Chris Kennedy) .


The earliest photo of Anniston AAF which has been located

was a circa 1943-45 aerial view looking northeast from the 1945 AAF Airfield Directory (courtesy of Scott Murdock).

It depicted Maxwell Field Auxiliary #3 (Anniston AAF) as having 3 concrete runways with a concrete ramp on the east side.


Anniston AAF was still depicted as an active military airfield

on the 1945 Birmingham Sectional Chart (courtesy of Chris Kennedy) .


Anniston AAF was closed on August 16, 1945 & was placed on standby status.


The 1945 AAF Airfield Directory (courtesy of Scott Murdock) descrbied Maxwell Field Auxiliary #3 (Anniston AAF)

as a 1,863 acre irregularly-shaped property having 3 concrete 5,300' runways,

and a single 160' x 120' steel hangar.

The field was said to be owned by the U.S. Government, and operated by the Army Air Forces, but to be Inactive.


At some point between 1945-47, Anniston was apparently closed by the military.

as it was labeled "Anniston Air Force Base (Inactive)" on a 1947 USGS topo map

(courtesy of Thomas Kallsen of the University of Alabama Map Library ).


A February 1949 USGS aerial photo (courtesy of John Cross) depicted Anniston AFB as having three 5,300' concrete runways, taxiways,

and a ramp & building complex on the northeast side of the field.


Anniston was reopened by the Air Force Air Training Command on July 1, 1949 as Anniston AFB

and conducted contract flying training until August 1, 1950

when it was transferred to Air Materiel Command as a support airfield to support the Anniston Army Depot.


Anniston AFB was closed for the final time on June 30, 1952.


The former Anniston AFB was eventually reused as the Talladega Airport.

It was described on the Aerodromes table of the August 1954 Birmingham Sectional Chart (courtesy of Chris Kennedy)

as a jointly operated (civil & Air Force) airfield.

The 1959 Jeppesen Airway Manual (courtesy of Chris Kennedy)

depicted Talladega Airport as having three 5,300' paved runways.

Taxiways led to a ramp on the north side of the field.

Only a single building was depicted.


Talladega Airport, as depicted on the 1961 Great Smoky Mountains World Aeronautical Chart (courtesy of Chris Kennedy).


The 1962 AOPA Airport Directory described Talladega Municipal Airport as having three 5,300' concrete runways,

and listed the operator as Vinson Flying Service.


The former Anniston AAF was selected as the site for a new auto racing track by NASCAR founder Bill France & Bill Ward,

and the track was opened in 1969.

It "was built to be the biggest, fastest, and most competitive speedway in the world."

The date of closure of the Talladega Municipal Airport has not been determined.


At an unknown date,

a new airport, the Talladega Municipal Airport , was built to the east of the Speedway & former military airfield.

A new 6,000' paved runway was constructed for the new airport -

it did not reuse any runways from the former military airfield.


The majority of the length of the three runways of the former military airfield

were still clearly recognizable in the 1997 aerial photo.

Most of the former military building area also still existed, northeast of the former airfield.


A 2006 aerial view by Robert Morris looking northeast at the Talladega Superspeedway,

with the former military airfield just behind it, and the current Talladega Regional Airport at the top.

Robert observed, The old runways are used as roadways & RV/camper parking at the Talladega Superspeedway.


A 5/31/09 aerial view looking north at the remains of 2 former runways within the Talladega Superspeedway.


The site of Talladega AAF is located

southeast of the intersection of Superspeedway Boulevard & Jackson Trace Road.


Thanks to Peter Kodis for pointing out this former airfield.

____________________________________________________


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:02:07PM
Dave Fulton
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10/15/13 11:41:53AM
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Jeff Burton Takes Exception to Premise of Current NASCAR "Action Plan" to Attract Young Fan Base


Current NASCAR

I took my dad to his first race after I was hooked. But we were certainly very much into the cars. My buddy and I attended the races together. We hated Fords and pulled for Chrysler and Chevy (who had nothing competitive in 1964 when I started going). But then, I immediately also started going to my weekly track to see the modifieds and was really hooked for life.

Back then, too, any idiot could tell one brand from another on the street and on the track. This idiot can no longer do either. Back then, I also tuned my own car. Now I raise the hood only to check the fluid levels.

And yes, Andy, there was huge anticipation to see whatever edited clips of the race were shown on WWS, even though I'd listened to it on radio and knew the result.

I remember when the Eagles Lodge and Moose Lodge in Richmond were crammed, standing room only on Sunday afternoon to watch NASCAR on big projection TVs. No more.

My grandsons have a passing interest, but 10-15 minutes of a telecast are all they'll watch before retiring to their XBox or whatever.

There was definitely much to be said for the continuity of paint jobs in the past, as you reference, Andy. When we'd race Talladega in the early 80s I could always pick out two cars on the backstretch - my Wrangler blue & yellow Earnhardt car and the Petty STP blue & red.

Dave Fulton
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10/12/13 11:17:00AM
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Jeff Burton Takes Exception to Premise of Current NASCAR "Action Plan" to Attract Young Fan Base


Current NASCAR

I'm waiting to see if NASCAR has the kahunas to fine Jeff Burton, the acknowledged "Mayor of the NASCAR Garage" like it did Denny Hamlin for speaking his mind on some of NASCAR's changes.

Seems the highly respected younger Burton brother questions one of the premises in NASCAR's current 5-year "Action Plan" that today's youngsters have no interest in automobiles and must be reached through video games and the confusing array of NASCAR social media (i.e. NASCAR.com) that many of we over the hill NASCAR fans have abandonned.

I do wish Jeff had gone one step further and asked how tearing down 10,000 seats at one of his Virginia tracks in Richmond fits in the current NASCAR "Action Plan."

From the Charlotte Observer :

NASCAR aiming for younger, more diverse fans, quicker finishes
By Rick Rothacker
rrothacker@charlotteobserver.com
Friday, Oct. 11, 2013

When racings attendance and TV ratings fell in recent years, NASCAR officials knew they needed a change.

After decades of growth under the iron rule of founder Bill France Sr. and his son Bill France Jr. both enshrined in NASCARs Hall of Fame current Chairman Brian France pushed his organization to listen more to the people who were the backbone of the sport.

Working with the team owners, drivers, tracks and sponsors, NASCAR came up with an Industry Action Plan that aims to help the sport rebound from the economic downturn and changing consumer habits that have affected all sports.

The goal? Inject more youth and diversity into a fan base that is mostly white and aging by ramping up digital and social media offerings, consider changes to the cars to make the racing more exciting, and even contemplate more radical moves.

At its highest level, the racing organization sanctions 36 races and two special events a year, including Saturdays Bank of America 500 at Charlotte Motor Speedway. It will spend tens of millions of dollars on the five-year plan, which started in 2011 and is expected to evolve over time.

NASCAR in the past operated obviously very well and had explosive growth, Chief Marketing Officer Steve Phelps said in an interview this week at NASCARs facility in Concord. But as things have changed in the economy and in how young people use their leisure time and in how they consume sports and entertainment, we have had to change as well.

To be sure, NASCAR still has its dictatorial moments. Last month, officials levied a record $300,000 fine against Michael Waltrip Racing for attempting to manipulate the outcome of a race, a move that Brian France said was necessary to protect the integrity of the sport. The incident also led auto parts retailer NAPA to end a multimillion-dollar sponsorship deal with the team.

And earlier this year, NASCAR fined driver Denny Hamlin $25,000 for comments perceived as critical of the sports new cars, stirring criticism that the sport was stifling free speech.

But drivers and team owners say they appreciate the efforts by NASCAR to be more open to their new ideas.

Even if you dont agree with them, said J.D. Gibbs, president of Joe Gibbs Racing, you know what theyre thinking.

Fighting the trend

NASCAR, started in 1947 by the France family, is stock car racings governing body. The family-owned private company, which organizes and polices the races for teams, tracks and drivers, is based in Daytona Beach, Fla., but has significant operations in the Charlotte area, where the first-ever NASCAR race was held in 1949.

The sports popularity skyrocketed in the 1990s and early 2000s, but the recession dealt the sport a major hit, and it is still recovering.

Ratings for Sprint Cup races the premier NASCAR series have remained flat over the past three years, but they are down by nearly 10 to 20 percent from five years ago, depending on the race and the network it is broadcast on. Still, key races can still draw up to 8 million viewers, and the sport recently signed a 10-year, $8.2 billion television deal with NBC and Fox.

NASCAR also mirrors many other sports with drops in attendance. Admission revenues reported by Speedway Motorsports, the company that owns Charlotte Motor Speedway, were down 38 percent in 2012 from 2008. The numbers in the quarter ending June 30, 2013, were down 12 percent from a year ago.

Daytona International Speedway and other tracks owned by International Speedway Corp. have seen a similar trend. Admission revenues were nearly flat from a year ago in the quarter ended in August, and it was still down significantly from five years ago.

Both publicly owned companies have seen a drop in profitability from five years ago.

NASCAR, though, is fighting back.

To help attract younger fans, the sport has spruced up its website and mobile apps after building a media and entertainment hub in Charlotte.

It has worked to bring pop culture figures to races and land spots for drivers in television shows popular with a younger generation. NASCAR is also trying to meet the next generations interests by getting deeper into video games and digital device offerings.

We have to be where they are, Phelps said.

High-tech cars, new fans

One challenge with younger fans, Phelps said, is that the love affair with cars does not come as naturally as it did with previous generations.

Kids today view the automobile ... as a way to get from Point A to Point B, he said.

Driver Jeff Burton disagrees that kids arent as interested in cars. Burton said he drove a new Chevrolet Camaro to pick up his children at school recently, and kids were all over it.

We dont have a hot-rod culture where theyre taking out the engine on a wrecked Corvette and putting it in a four-door sedan, Burton said. But kids today still love cars and driving. The cars are just more technologically advanced.

To feed the interest, Burton said, NASCAR should showcase the sophistication of the cars, including high-tech equipment used to design and build the vehicles that race each weekend. In the past, the sport kept that low-key, lest one team seem to have an advantage over another, Burton said. But today most operations are teeming with top-notch equipment, he said.

Research by NASCAR shows one demographic still in love with cars is Hispanics. Thats why the sport launched a Spanish-language version of NASCAR.com and brought a NASCAR Toyota Mexico Series race to Phoenix this year.

Hispanic viewership of races broadcast on Fox was up 30 percent compared with last year, officials said.

Karen Walker, 51, who attended pole night Thursday at Charlotte Motor Speedway, is the kind of fan NASCAR would like to see more of at the track. Of a mixed racial background, she wears memorabilia to work, encourages her kids to embrace the sport and is quick to strike up a conversation about her favorite driver, Dale Earnhardt Jr.

She encourages fans to come to the race track to best experience the sport, and she discounts any decline in attendance or ratings.

Its the economy, she said. People are feeling financial pressure. As things improve, I think things will improve for the sport.

Dennis Deninger, a former ESPN executive who teaches sports communications at Syracuse University, said NASCAR could attract even more diverse fans if it had more drivers of color.

The one thing that would broaden the popularity immediately would be if there were an African-American driver, Deninger said. The race for diversity has been on for several years now and there is some up-and-coming talent.

The impact on NASCAR could be the same as the impact that Jackie Robinsons arriving at the Brooklyn Dodgers had (in 1947.) Suddenly the people in the stands were of different colors once they had a player to root for.

Never good enough

Beyond trying to bring in new fans, NASCAR is also working to improve the racing product. A 15,000-member fan council that rates each race for NASCAR has given this years events an average of 7.9 on a scale of 10, up from 7.7 a year ago.

But officials say they want to do better.

NASCAR is working with tracks to make improvements in the fan experience. That list includes everything from better signage to improved technology such as Wi-Fi connectivity. The sport also has increased marketing for the 10 Chase for the Cup races that make up the season-ending playoff.

Also under consideration are more dramatic moves, such as shortening races and changing formats.

Might we see additional changes for 14? Phelps said. I think its absolutely on the table. Whether it happens or not, Im not sure.

Gibbs, the team president, said race length is a difficult balancing act.

I have four boys, he said. They are not going to watch something for three and a half hours. But we also have fans who say, I want my four hours of racing.

Fans have also said they want fewer uniform cars that look more like the street versions sold at dealerships.

There is also the most obvious way to improve fan enjoyment more competitive racing and closer finishes.

NASCAR this year introduced a Generation 6 car, with vehicles that look more like the factory models. And Monday, teams and drivers will test new aerodynamics at Charlotte Motor Speedway, with a goal of tighter racing and more passing on the track.

Burton, who will drive the No. 31 car in Saturdays Bank of America 500, will participate in the test.

Its good for us to look at how we can get better, he said. Some people might see that as a weakness that we need to make improvements. My opinion is its never good enough.

We need to always be trying to get better.

Staff writers Mark Washburn and Jeff Siner contributed.
Rothacker: 704-358-5170; Twitter: Rick Rothacker

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/11/4381683/nascar-aiming-for-younger-more.html#.UliOtyQmyc8#storylink=cpy


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM
Dave Fulton
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10/14/13 03:14:45PM
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Southern 500 Moves to Darlington's Old "Rebel" Weekend


Current NASCAR

You didn't miss anything Johnny. Today's "experts" just have no expertise preceding Y2K.

Dave Fulton
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10/13/13 10:32:01AM
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Southern 500 Moves to Darlington's Old "Rebel" Weekend


Current NASCAR

Right now the Catawba Indian Nation of SOUTH CAROLINA wants to build a casino, but they want it constructed on I-85 in King's Mountain, NORTH CAROLINA!

Sep 9, 2013, 12:12pm EDT
Catawbas push to open $600M casino in Kings Mountain

Ken Elkins
Senior Staff Writer- Charlotte Business Journal

The Catawba Indian Nation says it wants to build a $600 million casino along Interstate 85 in Kings Mountain, a move that the tribe says will bring 5,000 jobs to the region.

But the big question remains: Will the state of North Carolina and the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs allow it?

Catawba Chief Bill Harris announced this morning that hes asked the federal government for permission to buy 16 acres at the Kings Mountain Boulevard interchange of I-85 for the casino.

The people of North Carolina have witnessed firsthand the benefits of a close working partnership with the proud people of the Cherokee Nation, says Catawba Chief Bill Harris. It is our goal to forge such a working relationship so all who choose will grow and prosper.

Rumors of the Catawbas' interest in an N.C. casino have been swirling along the western side of the Charlotte region for months now. Until today the Catawbas have said theyre concentrating on another bingo operation in York County instead.

David Dear, interim Cleveland County manager, says the Catawbas deserve to operate a gambling house in North Carolina.

It would have a huge impact for the entire region with up to 5,000 jobs, he says. It would be no threat to the Cherokees operation in the N.C. mountains, he says.

Theyre over 150 miles away from where theyre looking here in Cleveland, Dear says. He says the casino site is 44 acres in the northwestern quadrant of Exit 5 of I-85. There was no immediate explanation this morning about whether the casino would occupy 16 acres or 44 acres.

This morning the Cleveland County Chamber posted on its website an elaborate site calling the casino Cleveland Countys World Class Resort. There will be 1,500 hotel rooms, 5,000 construction jobs and a casino designed by The Friedmutter Group, which designed casinos in Las Vegas, Atlantic City and Macau.

A study by Miley & Associates of Columbia, S.C., says the casino would generate $300 million a year in economic activity once in operation. That would be the result of a 220,000-square-foot casino that would be in operation by 2015.

However, more than 100 members of the N.C. House signed a letter last week opposing an N.C. casino for the Catawbas. State Rep. Paul Stem (R-Wake County), House speaker pro tem, says he will do everything I can to defeat it.

An editorial in the Greensboro News & Record says the Catawbas planned casino belongs in their own state of South Carolina.

The idea of an N.C. Catawba casino surfaced a few months ago when gambling veteran Darrell Hardin approached Gaston County officials about the idea. There economic development officials were skeptical about whether the Catawbas would be allowed to open an N.C. casino.

Hardin is the former chief of operations for Dockside Entertainment of Gastonia, which planned to operate a 214-foot riverboat with gambling on the Arkansas River until the Tahlequah, Okla.-based Cherokee Nation but a halt to it in 2003. The Cherokees contended the riverboat needed permission from the tribe to gamble in its jurisdiction.

It was unclear today whether Hardin is involved in the Catawbas' efforts in Cleveland County.

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