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Dave Fulton
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05/24/13 05:28:59PM
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This day in 1970 - May 24, 1970


Stock Car Racing History

Thanks for a great post, Dennis.

11th place finisher Whitey Gerkin would die three years later, on October 9, 1973, a day after a crash that killed a pit worker at the Illana Speedway in Shererville, Indiana.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
05/24/13 08:13:53PM
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Rick Hendrick wealthy?


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Woody.... I never ran with the yacht set. Dale's yacht days were well after me, lol. I do recall that Bill, Jr. used to like to have Dale as a guest aboard his yacht.

The one who most often talked about yachts was Felix Sabates. I do remember one time in the 90s going to eat at some fancy/dancy place near Daytona that everybody loved and I hated. Felix had a yacht moored almost beside that restaurant.

Back in '84 when I was working the IMSA Grand Prix of Miami, Tim Richmond took a couple of us aboard a cigarette boat he'd docked in front of a Miami restaurant.

My boat speed was more like going out of Reedville, Va. or Saluda fishing.

A most interesting article.

Here's a link to another one:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_nascar/2008/02/boogity-boog...

Aha, it was the Chart House Restaurant, as mentioned in the article above that failed to impress me.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
05/24/13 09:34:31AM
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Rick Hendrick wealthy?


Current NASCAR

Twin bank vaults on each, I presume?

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
05/24/13 09:47:21AM
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Racing History Minute - May 23, 1965


Stock Car Racing History

Here's an uncredited photo of the 1965 Darlington incident showing that #3 LeeRoy / Ray Fox '65 Chevy getting swept up in Cale & Sam's mess:

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
05/23/13 05:15:16PM
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Racing History Minute - May 23, 1965


Stock Car Racing History

Thanks for the history lesson, Tim. And thanks for mentioning that Ray Fox #3 Chevy driven by LeeRoy. Anyone who's ever watched Cale and Sam McQuagg collide later in the 1965 season at Darlington in the Southern 500 has seen that car. It was running behind those two with a legitimate shot of winning the 1965 Southern 500 when it got caught up in the melee of Cale sailing over the rail and McQuagg coming back down the track.

Neat , too, that Dennis Setzer's dad, Ned, had a 6th place finish as a rookie.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
05/23/13 05:05:06PM
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May 23, 1954 - Lee Petty Soaks up Sharon


Stock Car Racing History

Very interesting, Chase... especially the part about the track being in Ohio, buit being named after the nearby Pennsylvania town. Thanks for an enlightening post.

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
05/22/13 07:42:47PM
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Inquisitive Old Man Discusses Art, Auto Racing and Yelling at Kids


Stock Car Racing History

I just stumbled upon a blog by a West Virginian who calls himself Inquisineer.

The subject of this blog was the look of race cars back in the day and now. What really attracted me was the one photo and those of you who know me will know why.

I've included the writer's "About Me" preface before the actual blog. Hope he wasn't one of the NASA fellows I met on the race train from Washington/Richmond to Rockingham in 1966! I think you'll find this entertaining. I could really relate.

About Me

West Virginia
I grew up in the Parkersburg area before going to the University of Charleston for a political science degree, and then to WVU for both an MPA and a JD. Never really wanting to be a traditional lawyer, I was selected for what is now called the Presidential Management Fellowship program, and worked at NASA Headquarters in DC before transferring to the U.S. Treasury Department (to get back to West Virginia). In my spare time, I was elected to two terms on the Wood County Board of Education, and then went on to teach American Government and Constitutional Law at WVU-Parkersburg.

Sunday, April 28, 2013

Art and Auto Racing

Yes, I am officially becoming an old guy. One way I can tell is my reaction to my favorite sport of auto racing.
Im much more critical of it now than when I was younger, and on many different fronts. I recently attended some dirt track stock car races (late models and modifieds) that inspired this rant. For this essay, I will focus on one aspect in particularthe way the cars look today.

You see, Ive always liked auto racing because it is such a multi-sensorial experience.

You watch it with your eyes, you hear them roar by with your ears (and sometimes feel the noise in your chest), and you can often smell burning rubber, fuel additives, or even just the popcorn from the concession stand (which can also be tasted). But the artist in me has always enjoyed the beauty of racing cars. A mechanic can build a basic race car, but the way it looksthe color scheme chosen, the font style of the number, etc.all contribute towards giving the car personality. Since you dont see the driver like you can a baseball or basketball player, the car becomes a representative of him (or her). It doesnt have to be worthy of an art museum, but good ones convey a personality.

In the old days, race cars were hand lettered, often by local sign painters. In todays world, cars are wrapped instead of painted, using giant decals created on a computer screen. The computer makes it easy for people to lose sight of a simple design and instead go over the top with a complicated array of colors that looks like someone dumped the crayon box into a blender.

The cars themselves dont have the character that cars had in the old days. I liked it best when stock cars used auto bodies from real cars. You could readily tell a Chevelle from a Road Runner, or a Firebird from a Mustang, because that is what they started off as being. There was often a wide variety of body types. Unfortunately, todays cars dont use real car bodies, and they all look the sameslab-sided slanted boxes (rhomboid racers?)resulting in less personality.

To make things worse, they typically hide these cars inside a huge white box for no one to see. Most teams have big rig haulers that allow them to bring an entire garage with them for support at the race track. In the good old days, race cars traveled on open haulers, to amaze and inspire people (especially kids) along the way.

While most of the preceding comments were based on dirt track stock car racing, that doesnt mean that other forms of racing are immune from this problem. Sprint cars were better when they had rounded bodies and not much around the driver, making it easy to see the driver working the steering wheel. Now theyve all became carbon copy downtube cars, with wedge shaped hoods and body panels encapsulating the driver. Plus, they also have the crayons-in-the-blender fancy wraps!

Heck, even NASCAR and NHRA Funny Cars were more realistic (and thus more interesting) when I was younger. While I appreciate the thought behind their effort, I think the attempt by NASCAR to create fake Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers in the Nationwide Series is absolutely ridiculous, because it is all the same body, with just minor deviations.

Fortunately, there was one fantastic race car at last weekends race. Near the concession stand, a historic car was on display for folks to see. It was a replica of Ray Hendricks Flying 11 1937 Chevy modified that ran on paved tracks in NASCARs modified series. I was very fortunate to see this car run in the late 60s and through the 70s, whenever we went to Martinsville Speedway in Virginia. I was glad to see the car again. To me, this is a real race car! And yes, I am officially an old man yearning for the good old days! Now if you will please excuse me, I need to go yell at some kids to get off my lawn.

Now this is what I call a race car with personality!


updated by @dave-fulton: 12/16/16 07:54:05AM
Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
05/22/13 07:12:50PM
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Well, another confusing selection to NASCAR HOF


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I once made the extremely embarassing mistake of saying to Ned that I didn't think DJ could ever cut it in Cup - must have been around the same time Ernie Irvan was saying the same thing to Robert Yates. Amazing how gracious "Gentleman Ned" was when I said that. I was very wrong and wish I'd never made the statement. But, HOF? Not by me.

I saw 4-5 of my hometown Richmond boys beat Ingram most every time they ever raced heads up in the same LMS events, so I have a big problem with that selection, also.

The other three are certainly worthy candidates.

Those are my opinions. Most of us have one, but they didn't ask me to nominate or vote.

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