Did we make enough noise about where short track racing is going?

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
14 years ago
3,259 posts

I wonder if D/W has been paying attention to the noise we been making about NASCAR and the future of racing. here is what he wrote on the subject we been harping on lately

I was listening to a discussion on Sirius Satellite Radio about thestate of short track racing in the country. Having cut my teeth on theshort tracks, especially all over the southeast, I have some thoughts onthe issue.

One of the things that has hurt short track racing is the simple lackof exposure. The local TV or print media has really drifted away fromthe short tracks across our country. The results are normally buried atthe bottom of the sports page, if they are there at all. The problemstems from the fact that a lot of the short track events arent overuntil the papers have already gone to press.

This disconnect between the local track and the media outlets havesurely hurt. There are just so many other options at times that forcethe short track coverage to take a back seat. There are football,basketball and baseball games. There might be a concert at the localarena. So theres no doubt the competition has made it more difficultfor the short tracks.

Look at examples like the track here in Nashville at the Fairgrounds orBirmingham International Raceway. Back then, the tracks were built onthe edge of town. Now with expansion over all the years, the tracks arein town. So the town has grown up around it and a racetrack in themiddle of town doesnt seem to make sense anymore. Now to me, it seemsawfully convenient to have a track that close, but it may not foreverybody within those towns.

Another area where the short tracks struggle is keeping up with theamenities that other sports facilities provide. Thats mainly becausethe track owners are independent operators. They do things out of theirown pocket. They dont get funding from anyone.

As the Green movement continues to expand, that actually might be anopportunity for these tracks to have a chance to revitalize. We areseeing electric cars, ethanol cars, etc. so there might be an outlet totake advantage of the initiatives being pushed by the government and themanufacturers.

Every racetrack has to have something that folks go there for. Greatracing? Sure, but you expect that when you spend your hard earned moneyto buy a ticket. You expect and deserve to be entertained. Thats whyyou are there. We have to figure a way to get that local flair andflavor back. If you are a short track owner, you have to come up withsomething that is unique, attracts people and gives them something totalk about.

Look at Martinsville Speedway what is that track known for? Itsknown as a paperclip track that gives Grandfather clocks to the winner,plus dont forget those red hot dogs. Thats their hook. South BostonSpeedway is known for their baloney burgers. Here in Nashville at theFairgrounds, and now at the bigger track, the race winners trophy is aguitar. I remember back in the day that BIR in Birmingham had the besthot dogs. Like them, every track needs something that the fan identifiesthem with.

You want a place that puts on a great show. Great racing mixed with agood public address announcer. You want fair officiating. Its a funevening to go to your local short track with the family, have dinner anda couple Mountain Dews and watch your neighbors compete against eachother.

Local short track racing is the backbone of our sport. Not only are wenot developing new talent, but were also not developing new fansbecause of the downturn of our local short tracks. Short track racing ischaotic. Thats what makes them fun. You have heat races. You invertthe field. You may have a demolition derby between the heat races andthe feature. You might even have some guy on a motorcycle jump over abunch of school buses. That comes from the promoter. Thats the HumpyWheelers of the world. Thats the other thing a good short track needs a great promoter. Where are the Bob Harmons, the Paul Sawyers and theClay Earles of todays short tracks? Those guys lived and breathedpromoting the next event. We need the next generation of those guys andguys like Humpy Wheeler.

The best promoters come from a racing and public relations background.They understand the sport. They know what excites people and they knowhow to promote that.

There are a lot of reasons the short tracks are in the shape they arein. There used to be some national coverage like Thursday Night Thunderon ESPN and Winter Heat on TNN that simply isnt there anymore.

All of us collectively NASCAR, track promoters, media etc. need toset down as a group and find ways to promote our local tracks. Thatswhere are next superstar drivers need to be groomed, plus thats wherewell grow a new generation of race fans.

I love the short tracks. I always have. Coming from go-cart racing, theshort tracks were the next step for me on my way to the NASCAR Cuplevel. I think collectively we all are also guilty of going for theglamour, speed and danger of the superspeedways today while ignoring theexcitement and thrill of our past, the short tracks. We simply have tohave the short tracks around our country healthy and thriving. Thatsthe future of NASCAR.

Merry Christmas everybody, and Im looking forward to a very Happy New Year.


updated by @johnny-mallonee: 12/05/16 04:09:31PM
Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
14 years ago
3,119 posts

Johnny, that is an incredibly well thought out and well presented Forum. So many points right on target. Having been a product of the short tracks of which you speak, I know you hit the nail on the head with several points here. I don't have an answer for the problem, but with the right people all coming together there is bound to be an answer. I'm not ready to give up but the one point you raise that is so very valid is the lateness of the hour when the local short track programs end. Newspapers have long since been "put to bed" and so many of the younger fans are up far past their bedtimes. I've seen more than one kid carried to the car on his daddy's shoulder sound asleep even with all the cars running.

Merry Christmas and may God bless you.

Tim




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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.

Randy Myers2
@randy-myers2
14 years ago
219 posts
Johnny! Did DW write this?
Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
14 years ago
3,259 posts
yes in part --Jaws actually said something intelligent,

Randy Myers said:
Johnny! Did DW write this?
Randy Myers2
@randy-myers2
14 years ago
219 posts

This rebuttal to DWs article will take up some space so bear with me. I apologize in advance for being so long winded but after reading and re-reading the DW article, I had to reply. I have done this point-by-point with DWs article in quotation marks and my comments in italics.

I was listening to a discussion Sirius Satellite Radio about the state of short track racing in the country. Having cut my teeth on the short tracks, especially all over the southeast, I have some thoughts on the issue.

DW should definitely be proud of his short track heritage. He was extremely good at his chosen craft.

One of the things that has hurt short track racing is the simple lack of exposure. The local TV or print media has really drifted away from the short tracks across our country. The results are usually buried at the bottom of the sports page, if they are there at all. The problem stems from the fact that a lot of the short track events arent over till the papers have already gone to press.

I will agree with this to a point but I want to add to what he says. Times are changing. In this day of cutbacks in employment, check out the local papers. Most are now owned by huge conglomerates and have cut staff to the point of not having someone cover the events. Our own local paper (Winston-Salem Journal) laid-off Mike Mulhern from the cup beat after over 25 years of writing about racing. The Journal does send a beat writer who does a good job to Bowman Gray Stadium on Saturday night but Bowman Gray is definitely an exception to the rule. But even back-in-the-day as DW likes to call them, not many local papers actually covered the local racing beat. Only in the heart of racing county did many short tracks get any print coverage and even less radio or TV. These days many of the younger NASCAR beat writers are lucky to have their jobs and many are younger guys or gals commanding much less salary than the writers they replaced. NASCAR should require these writers to cover the short tracks in their areas on Saturday night before getting in the chow line at the media center at the cup tracks. Dang! I forgot they were covering the cup tracks on Saturday night.

This disconnect between the local track and the media outlets has surely hurt. There are just so many other options at times that force the short track coverage to take a back seat. There are football, basketball and baseball games.

The print and local news media has always catered to stick-and-ball sports so that is nothing new. What has puzzled me for years is the fact the papers and electronic media has always taken the time to dote on those sports. Is there really more demand for tennis or golf coverage from England or the Yankees or BoSox over the local heros of our sport? Or it just easier for the sports editor to pull something off the wire to take up space?

There might be a concert at the local arena. So there is no doubt the competition has made it more difficult for the local short tracks.

I understand DWs point about the concerts and such but in case he doesnt remember, they have always been around. There is nothing new about that. What he is saying is the same old stuff NASCAR puts out in their propaganda. Competition from other things are the problem the short tracks face. B/S! There have always been concerts, restaurants, bowling alleys, pool halls, video games and other competition for the short tracks. What the short tracks didnt have for competition was Charlotte Motor Speedway, Daytona, Darlington, Richmond, Bristol, Texas and Kentucky on the TV set in the living room of millions of short track fans.

Look at examples like the track here in Nashville at the Fairgrounds or Birmingham International Raceway. Back then, the tracks were built on the edge of town. Now with expansion over all the years, the tracks are in town. So the town has grown up around it and a racetrack in the middle of town doesnt seem to make sense anymore.

Biggest glaring contradiction to that comment is to check out the city of Winston-Salem, NC and Bowman Gray Stadium. Again, Bowman Gray is an exception to the rule but the key to the success of ANY business is location, location, location! Short track fans in this area are fortunate to have a stadium owned by the city that is probably the only city owned facility that operates in the black. Not to mention the fact stadium racing subsidizes the coliseum, the convention center and half-dozen other city owned properties that operate in the red. If the operators of the Nashville Fairgrounds track had worked with the owners (fairgrounds/city) to keep open such a historic track (instead of letting the fairgrounds/city gouge the operators into submission) that track might have a future. Same for BIR, New Asheville Speedway and dozens of others across the country.

Now to me, it seems awfully convenient to have a track that close, but it may not be for everybody within those towns.

It is convenient DW! Its strange that as we grow older and younger folks become the community leaders, that history (especially racing history) goes by the wayside. Somewhere along the line, those folks missed something that helped grow their communities to where they are today and to just discard those facilities is a shame. The notion that folks cant work together for a few hours a week to maintain some sense of history and a profitable facility boggles what mind I have left.

Another area where short tracks struggle is keeping up with the amenities that other sports facilities provide.

While I agree that some tracks dont keep up with the times, I can think of several that do and still struggle. Southern National Raceway in Kenly, NC (built outside the city) has state-of-the-art seating, lighting & VIP areas. Closed! Caraway Speedway near Asheboro, NC (outside the city) has 2,000 closed deck seats, half-million in sewer and concession updates in the past eight years and 2-300 spectators in the stands each week. Motor Mile Speedway near Radford, VA. One of the finest short tracks in the south with modern everything, huge car counts and big purses struggles with attendance and without the support of a wealthy ownership with strong community leverage ability would probably close the doors. The list of really quality facilities IS short and I havent covered all of them but even history and location cant save them all. Hickory Speedway, The Birthplace of the NASCAR Stars as it is billed it, struggles every week for a crowd and Tri-Count Motor Speedway across the Catawba River from Hickory struggles even more. The list of tracks that I am familiar with could fill a couple of pages so Ill move on.

Thats mainly because the track owners are independent operators. They do things out of their own pocket. They dont get funding from anyone.

Its not all funding DW. It takes support as well. Support from everyone from the community, NASCAR and even the cup drivers. Every driver in the big leagues should commit to at least one night each season at the local track he came from and in this day of jets and helicopters he should bring a couple of his pals with him to sit in the stands (without a $10,000.00+ appearance fee) and greet and thank the fans that put him where he or she is. And that goes for all the big leagues, Cup, Nationwide, Camping World, Indy Car and on and on.

As the Green movement continues to expand, that might actually be an opportunity for these tracks to have a chance to revitalize. We are seeing electric cars, ethanol cars, etc. so there might be an outlet to take advantage of the initiatives being pushed by the government and the manufacturers.

Maybe Im getting old and time is passing me by but I am not even going to waste my time with explaining everything that is so out of touch with DWs comment on the green movement.

Every racetrack has to have something that folks go there for. Great Racing? Sure, but you expect that when you spend your hard earned money to buy a ticket. You expect and deserve to be entertained. Thats why you are there.

WTH? Hell yes! Great racing. Thats what you paid to see. And if you see great racing, you HAVE been entertained.

We have to figure a way to get that local flair and flavor back. If you are a short track owner, you have to come up with something that is unique, attracts people and gives them something to talk about.

With this I agree. Great Racing!!!

Look at Martinsville Speedway what is that track known for? Its known as a paperclip track that gives Grandfather clocks to the winner, plus dont forget those red hot dogs. Thats their hook.

Hey DW! Those are Jesse Jones hot dogs. They just happen to be red. I will admit I rarely turned down one of those hot dogs but I dont remember making the Martinsville trip to eat a hot dog or see a clock. I went to see some hard-nosed, beatin & bangin, short track racing. They do make a really great trophy and when they used to give one away to someone in the stands, it was an added bonus for a lucky FAN. But these days, if Martinsville didnt have a winners circle in plain view, no one would see the clock anyway.

South Boston Speedway (and half-dozen others within 100 miles of here) is known for their baloney burgers. Here in Nashville at the Fairgrounds, and now at the bigger track, the race winners trophy is a guitar. I remember back in the day that BIR in Birmingham had the best hot dogs. Like them, every track needs something that the fan identifies them with.

Again, it aint the trophy! Its the up-close action, see the drivers in the pits, check out the beatin & bangin racing we want to see. Remember you and Richard, Cale and Bobby finishing the races there with the fenders and doors barely hanging on? I do.

You want a place that puts on a great show.

Amen to that!

Great racing mixed with a good public address announcer.

Hard to find but definitely a plus!

You want fair officiating.

As a competitor you do but Im not so sure its something the fans clamor for. I will admit that poor officiating seems to stir the crowd at Bowman Gray but they are sitting on top of the action and dont miss much.

Its a fun evening to go to your local short track with the family, have dinner and a couple Mountain Dews and watch your neighbors compete against each other.

Have to agree with old DW here but if the local press isnt writing about the show, no one knows his neighbor is there. BTW DW! When was the last time you went to your local short track and spent some time walking through the pits or stands? Or better yet, gave the promoter a heads-up that you were going to be there to sign a few autographs (without getting a check) so he might take advantage of your attendance.

Local short track racing is the backbone of our sport. Not only are we not developing new talent, but were also not developing new fans because of the downturn of our local short tracks.

Good point DW but you fail to give any credible reasons for this. You speak of talent. How much talent did you look for when you owned you truck team? Did you look for real talent or some talent and a big check? If memory serves correctly it was the second option. Not faulting you or any of the other car owners out there. I understand they must make money to survive, but facts are facts. There are hundreds of Dale Earnhardt, Jrs. and Jeff Gordons out there and a few make it to the upper ranks on their talent alone, but many are just steering wheel holders spending dads or grandpas money, and after finding they cant cut the mustard move on after driving up the cost of racing for the little guys who struggle every Saturday night to put on the show. Those shooting stars do little to fuel the local fan base and in the long run dilute the real driver and fan pool.

Short track racing is chaotic. Thats what makes them fun. You have heat races. You invert the field.

Not so much these days. Its everyone copying NASCAR with look-alike cars and look-alike races. Fast cars up front, follow the leader, some guy in a red shirt telling the drivers to not wreck the other guy, the penalty box, qualify the mini-stocks, boring-azz shows.

You may have a demolition derby between the heat races and the feature.

I thought the demo-derby was supposed to be the heat races.

You might even have some guy on a motorcycle jump over a bunch of school bused. That comes from the promoter. Thats the Humpy Wheelers of the world. Thats the other thing a good short track needs a great promoter. Where are the Bob Harmons, the Paul Sawyers and the Clay Earles of todays short tracks? Those guys lived and breathed promoting the next event. We need the next generation of those guys and guys like Humpy Wheeler.

Great people and promoters one-and-all. Uncle Bob was a one-of-a-kind. Worked his tail off to put on a show, God rest his soul. Seems he was so good at what he did, NASCAR bought him out and shut him down. Never was the same at the All-Pro races again. Paul Sawyer taught his trade well to his sons. They still love to do what he taught them. Mr. Earles knew what his fans wanted and provided that to them. His grandson sold his share of his Grandpas track to ISC. They built more stands they cant fill, watered down the chili on the Jesse Jones hot dogs and did away with the longest running division under NASCAR sanction for next season. As for Humpy Wheeler. Not sure anyone will ever know the full story there but he was one hell of a promoter in his day. Where are todays promoters? Most of them are out beating their heads against a wall trying to get some local coverage from their TV, radio or print media. If they arent doing that they are probably emptying the trash barrels or cleaning the bathrooms or painting the walls at their tracks cause they can barely afford to keep the doors open much less pay someone to do those jobs.

The best promoters come from a racing and public relations background. They understand the sport. They know what excites people and they know how to promote that.

Just doesnt seem to be enough of them to go around. Could be the bathrooms needed cleaning again this week.

There are a lot of reasons the short tracks are in the shape they are in. There used to be some national coverage like Thursday Night Thunder on ESPN and Winter Heat on TNN that simply isnt there anymore.

Where the heck is that coverage? You can turn on the TV almost anytime, night or day, February through November and find something on about NASCAR racing. Cup, Nationwide Camping World Trucks, crew chief with a hangnail, Jimmie and Chad, Chad and Jimmie, heaven only knows how many crew chiefs Junior has had or why he cant win or why he needs another damn crew chief. NASCAR controls the TV from sun-up till sun-down. Their contracts dictate what the networks can or cant show. Their production company feeds the media the news. We have had NASCAR Cafs, theme parks, nights at the ball game, monopoly, movies, tee shirts and caps. NASCAR, to its credit, has done one hell of a job of marketing the upper levels of the sport but since the Master Settlement Agreement was signed and Winston/RJR went by the wayside, short track racing has been on a downhill slide. Without the funding of Winston, the NASCAR sanctioned tracks had to fend for themselves and many really didnt know how. The fallout from the NASCAR tracks carried over to the un-sanctioned tracks and the struggles continue to multiply. Toss in three and four dollar per gallon gas a few years ago, the current downturn in the economy and you really have a crisis in the short track community, especially in the southeast. Hey Darrell! You got any pull with FOX}

All of us collectively NASCAR, track promoters, media, etc. need to set down as a group and find ways to promote our local tracks. Thats where our next superstar drivers need to be groomed.

For the record, there is a place where all of us collectively can sit down as a group. Its called the Racing Promoters Workshops. They have been going on every December and February for almost 35 years in Reno and Daytona Beach. Its a workshop where track operators from across the country DO sit down and collectively evaluate and discuss what each can do to succeed. Oh! Remember when NASCAR tried to help promoters a few years ago. They decided to have their own Short Track Summit. Just so happened they decide to have theirs on the very same dates and the very same towns as the RPM workshops. How do you think that worked out? As for the new drivers, I too hope the owners will continue to look for talent wherever they can find it and hope the talent doesnt continue to require a check to succeed. But I fear the Danicas of the world or the next gimmick will be the headliners.

plus thats where well grow a new generation of fans.

If we rebuild the short tracks, the fans will follow.

I love the short tracks. I always have. Coming from go-kart racing, the short tracks were the next step for me on my way to the NASCAR Cup level. I think collectively we all are also guilty of going for the glamour, speed and danger of the superspeedways today while ignoring the excitement and thrill of our past, the short tracks. We simply have to have the short tracks around our country healthy and thriving. Thats the future of NASCAR.

I too love the short tracks. I even know where you could invest something other than opinion in a great facility or two, but I fear talk is cheap. We may be guilty of buying into the hype of those things you mentioned but the top had better begin to help support the bottom and not the other way around as has been the case in the past. We DO need the short tracks healthy. They are the future of RACING. Not just NASCAR. Last time I looked at my trusty Speedway Directory, there was something over 750 racetracks in the country. Not counting the cup tracks, only 55 of them carried a NASCAR sanction. They are ALL the future of the sport we love and support.

In closing, and in support of my opinions, if one reads the eight pages of comments from race fans on the FOX page, you will understand my points. Over 40% have never attended a short track and its quite possible many of those who say they have are confusing the cup, Nationwide & Truck races at Martinsville, Bristol or Richmond for a short track race and not what DW is discussing in the article. Most comments are from folks who wouldnt know a sprint car or modified if it ran over them.

I also wish each of you and DW a Happy New Year!

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
14 years ago
3,259 posts
Randy Meyers im glad you took the time to wade through this because I was at a loss as to where to start,yes I was for a change, But you did a great job of making it clear on many points as to the drift of whats happening. I may sound like im stepping around the issue here but MAN its loaded and I just dont know exactly where its gonna explode.
Bobby Williamson
@bobby-williamson
14 years ago
907 posts
Here's a project for DW, maybe he can persuade his big-wig buds to keep 'cup events on Sunday. And, stop promoting (Saturday) night NASCAR events as............. "just like a Saturday night at the local track........" (like any of this will l ever happen..duh)
Tommy Buxton
@tommy-buxton
14 years ago
53 posts
Randy ,you have hit it right square in the bullseye. We can only hope that ole DW and some folks that can make a difference read your response. Thank you for voicing the thoughts that many of us have but are unable to put it all together at once.The future of Short Track Racing is NOW! It is periously close to complete failure without some serious damage control and careful planning on the rebuilding process. There might not be anything left of it in a few more years as we have known it.That thought makes me even more thankful for Jeff Gilder and the RR family.At least the memories will never die.

Randy Myers said:

This rebuttal to DWs article will take up some space so bear with me. I apologize in advance for being so long winded but after reading and re-reading the DW article, I had to reply. I have done this point-by-point with DWs article in quotation marks and my comments in italics.

I was listening to a discussion Sirius Satellite Radio about the state of short track racing in the country. Having cut my teeth on the short tracks, especially all over the southeast, I have some thoughts on the issue.

DW should definitely be proud of his short track heritage. He was extremely good at his chosen craft.

One of the things that has hurt short track racing is the simple lack of exposure. The local TV or print media has really drifted away from the short tracks across our country. The results are usually buried at the bottom of the sports page, if they are there at all. The problem stems from the fact that a lot of the short track events arent over till the papers have already gone to press.

I will agree with this to a point but I want to add to what he says. Times are changing. In this day of cutbacks in employment, check out the local papers. Most are now owned by huge conglomerates and have cut staff to the point of not having someone cover the events. Our own local paper (Winston-Salem Journal) laid-off Mike Mulhern from the cup beat after over 25 years of writing about racing. The Journal does send a beat writer who does a good job to Bowman Gray Stadium on Saturday night but Bowman Gray is definitely an exception to the rule. But even back-in-the-day as DW likes to call them, not many local papers actually covered the local racing beat. Only in the heart of racing county did many short tracks get any print coverage and even less radio or TV. These days many of the younger NASCAR beat writers are lucky to have their jobs and many are younger guys or gals commanding much less salary than the writers they replaced. NASCAR should require these writers to cover the short tracks in their areas on Saturday night before getting in the chow line at the media center at the cup tracks. Dang! I forgot they were covering the cup tracks on Saturday night.

This disconnect between the local track and the media outlets has surely hurt. There are just so many other options at times that force the short track coverage to take a back seat. There are football, basketball and baseball games.

The print and local news media has always catered to stick-and-ball sports so that is nothing new. What has puzzled me for years is the fact the papers and electronic media has always taken the time to dote on those sports. Is there really more demand for tennis or golf coverage from England or the Yankees or BoSox over the local heros of our sport? Or it just easier for the sports editor to pull something off the wire to take up space?

There might be a concert at the local arena. So there is no doubt the competition has made it more difficult for the local short tracks.

I understand DWs point about the concerts and such but in case he doesnt remember, they have always been around. There is nothing new about that. What he is saying is the same old stuff NASCAR puts out in their propaganda. Competition from other things are the problem the short tracks face. B/S! There have always been concerts, restaurants, bowling alleys, pool halls, video games and other competition for the short tracks. What the short tracks didnt have for competition was Charlotte Motor Speedway, Daytona, Darlington, Richmond, Bristol, Texas and Kentucky on the TV set in the living room of millions of short track fans.

Look at examples like the track here in Nashville at the Fairgrounds or Birmingham International Raceway. Back then, the tracks were built on the edge of town. Now with expansion over all the years, the tracks are in town. So the town has grown up around it and a racetrack in the middle of town doesnt seem to make sense anymore.

Biggest glaring contradiction to that comment is to check out the city of Winston-Salem, NC and Bowman Gray Stadium. Again, Bowman Gray is an exception to the rule but the key to the success of ANY business is location, location, location! Short track fans in this area are fortunate to have a stadium owned by the city that is probably the only city owned facility that operates in the black. Not to mention the fact stadium racing subsidizes the coliseum, the convention center and half-dozen other city owned properties that operate in the red. If the operators of the Nashville Fairgrounds track had worked with the owners (fairgrounds/city) to keep open such a historic track (instead of letting the fairgrounds/city gouge the operators into submission) that track might have a future. Same for BIR, New Asheville Speedway and dozens of others across the country.

Now to me, it seems awfully convenient to have a track that close, but it may not be for everybody within those towns.

It is convenient DW! Its strange that as we grow older and younger folks become the community leaders, that history (especially racing history) goes by the wayside. Somewhere along the line, those folks missed something that helped grow their communities to where they are today and to just discard those facilities is a shame. The notion that folks cant work together for a few hours a week to maintain some sense of history and a profitable facility boggles what mind I have left.

Another area where short tracks struggle is keeping up with the amenities that other sports facilities provide.

While I agree that some tracks dont keep up with the times, I can think of several that do and still struggle. Southern National Raceway in Kenly, NC (built outside the city) has state-of-the-art seating, lighting & VIP areas. Closed! Caraway Speedway near Asheboro, NC (outside the city) has 2,000 closed deck seats, half-million in sewer and concession updates in the past eight years and 2-300 spectators in the stands each week. Motor Mile Speedway near Radford, VA. One of the finest short tracks in the south with modern everything, huge car counts and big purses struggles with attendance and without the support of a wealthy ownership with strong community leverage ability would probably close the doors. The list of really quality facilities IS short and I havent covered all of them but even history and location cant save them all. Hickory Speedway, The Birthplace of the NASCAR Stars as it is billed it, struggles every week for a crowd and Tri-Count Motor Speedway across the Catawba River from Hickory struggles even more. The list of tracks that I am familiar with could fill a couple of pages so Ill move on.

Thats mainly because the track owners are independent operators. They do things out of their own pocket. They dont get funding from anyone.

Its not all funding DW. It takes support as well. Support from everyone from the community, NASCAR and even the cup drivers. Every driver in the big leagues should commit to at least one night each season at the local track he came from and in this day of jets and helicopters he should bring a couple of his pals with him to sit in the stands (without a $10,000.00+ appearance fee) and greet and thank the fans that put him where he or she is. And that goes for all the big leagues, Cup, Nationwide, Camping World, Indy Car and on and on.

As the Green movement continues to expand, that might actually be an opportunity for these tracks to have a chance to revitalize. We are seeing electric cars, ethanol cars, etc. so there might be an outlet to take advantage of the initiatives being pushed by the government and the manufacturers.

Maybe Im getting old and time is passing me by but I am not even going to waste my time with explaining everything that is so out of touch with DWs comment on the green movement.

Every racetrack has to have something that folks go there for. Great Racing? Sure, but you expect that when you spend your hard earned money to buy a ticket. You expect and deserve to be entertained. Thats why you are there.

WTH? Hell yes! Great racing. Thats what you paid to see. And if you see great racing, you HAVE been entertained.

We have to figure a way to get that local flair and flavor back. If you are a short track owner, you have to come up with something that is unique, attracts people and gives them something to talk about.

With this I agree. Great Racing!!!

Look at Martinsville Speedway what is that track known for? Its known as a paperclip track that gives Grandfather clocks to the winner, plus dont forget those red hot dogs. Thats their hook.

Hey DW! Those are Jesse Jones hot dogs. They just happen to be red. I will admit I rarely turned down one of those hot dogs but I dont remember making the Martinsville trip to eat a hot dog or see a clock. I went to see some hard-nosed, beatin & bangin, short track racing. They do make a really great trophy and when they used to give one away to someone in the stands, it was an added bonus for a lucky FAN. But these days, if Martinsville didnt have a winners circle in plain view, no one would see the clock anyway.

South Boston Speedway (and half-dozen others within 100 miles of here) is known for their baloney burgers. Here in Nashville at the Fairgrounds, and now at the bigger track, the race winners trophy is a guitar. I remember back in the day that BIR in Birmingham had the best hot dogs. Like them, every track needs something that the fan identifies them with.

Again, it aint the trophy! Its the up-close action, see the drivers in the pits, check out the beatin & bangin racing we want to see. Remember you and Richard, Cale and Bobby finishing the races there with the fenders and doors barely hanging on? I do.

You want a place that puts on a great show.

Amen to that!

Great racing mixed with a good public address announcer.

Hard to find but definitely a plus!

You want fair officiating.

As a competitor you do but Im not so sure its something the fans clamor for. I will admit that poor officiating seems to stir the crowd at Bowman Gray but they are sitting on top of the action and dont miss much.

Its a fun evening to go to your local short track with the family, have dinner and a couple Mountain Dews and watch your neighbors compete against each other.

Have to agree with old DW here but if the local press isnt writing about the show, no one knows his neighbor is there. BTW DW! When was the last time you went to your local short track and spent some time walking through the pits or stands? Or better yet, gave the promoter a heads-up that you were going to be there to sign a few autographs (without getting a check) so he might take advantage of your attendance.

Local short track racing is the backbone of our sport. Not only are we not developing new talent, but were also not developing new fans because of the downturn of our local short tracks.

Good point DW but you fail to give any credible reasons for this. You speak of talent. How much talent did you look for when you owned you truck team? Did you look for real talent or some talent and a big check? If memory serves correctly it was the second option. Not faulting you or any of the other car owners out there. I understand they must make money to survive, but facts are facts. There are hundreds of Dale Earnhardt, Jrs. and Jeff Gordons out there and a few make it to the upper ranks on their talent alone, but many are just steering wheel holders spending dads or grandpas money, and after finding they cant cut the mustard move on after driving up the cost of racing for the little guys who struggle every Saturday night to put on the show. Those shooting stars do little to fuel the local fan base and in the long run dilute the real driver and fan pool.

Short track racing is chaotic. Thats what makes them fun. You have heat races. You invert the field.

Not so much these days. Its everyone copying NASCAR with look-alike cars and look-alike races. Fast cars up front, follow the leader, some guy in a red shirt telling the drivers to not wreck the other guy, the penalty box, qualify the mini-stocks, boring-azz shows.

You may have a demolition derby between the heat races and the feature.

I thought the demo-derby was supposed to be the heat races.

You might even have some guy on a motorcycle jump over a bunch of school bused. That comes from the promoter. Thats the Humpy Wheelers of the world. Thats the other thing a good short track needs a great promoter. Where are the Bob Harmons, the Paul Sawyers and the Clay Earles of todays short tracks? Those guys lived and breathed promoting the next event. We need the next generation of those guys and guys like Humpy Wheeler.

Great people and promoters one-and-all. Uncle Bob was a one-of-a-kind. Worked his tail off to put on a show, God rest his soul. Seems he was so good at what he did, NASCAR bought him out and shut him down. Never was the same at the All-Pro races again. Paul Sawyer taught his trade well to his sons. They still love to do what he taught them. Mr. Earles knew what his fans wanted and provided that to them. His grandson sold his share of his Grandpas track to ISC. They built more stands they cant fill, watered down the chili on the Jesse Jones hot dogs and did away with the longest running division under NASCAR sanction for next season. As for Humpy Wheeler. Not sure anyone will ever know the full story there but he was one hell of a promoter in his day. Where are todays promoters? Most of them are out beating their heads against a wall trying to get some local coverage from their TV, radio or print media. If they arent doing that they are probably emptying the trash barrels or cleaning the bathrooms or painting the walls at their tracks cause they can barely afford to keep the doors open much less pay someone to do those jobs.

The best promoters come from a racing and public relations background. They understand the sport. They know what excites people and they know how to promote that.

Just doesnt seem to be enough of them to go around. Could be the bathrooms needed cleaning again this week.

There are a lot of reasons the short tracks are in the shape they are in. There used to be some national coverage like Thursday Night Thunder on ESPN and Winter Heat on TNN that simply isnt there anymore.

Where the heck is that coverage? You can turn on the TV almost anytime, night or day, February through November and find something on about NASCAR racing. Cup, Nationwide Camping World Trucks, crew chief with a hangnail, Jimmie and Chad, Chad and Jimmie, heaven only knows how many crew chiefs Junior has had or why he cant win or why he needs another damn crew chief. NASCAR controls the TV from sun-up till sun-down. Their contracts dictate what the networks can or cant show. Their production company feeds the media the news. We have had NASCAR Cafs, theme parks, nights at the ball game, monopoly, movies, tee shirts and caps. NASCAR, to its credit, has done one hell of a job of marketing the upper levels of the sport but since the Master Settlement Agreement was signed and Winston/RJR went by the wayside, short track racing has been on a downhill slide. Without the funding of Winston, the NASCAR sanctioned tracks had to fend for themselves and many really didnt know how. The fallout from the NASCAR tracks carried over to the un-sanctioned tracks and the struggles continue to multiply. Toss in three and four dollar per gallon gas a few years ago, the current downturn in the economy and you really have a crisis in the short track community, especially in the southeast. Hey Darrell! You got any pull with FOX}

All of us collectively NASCAR, track promoters, media, etc. need to set down as a group and find ways to promote our local tracks. Thats where our next superstar drivers need to be groomed.

For the record, there is a place where all of us collectively can sit down as a group. Its called the Racing Promoters Workshops. They have been going on every December and February for almost 35 years in Reno and Daytona Beach. Its a workshop where track operators from across the country DO sit down and collectively evaluate and discuss what each can do to succeed. Oh! Remember when NASCAR tried to help promoters a few years ago. They decided to have their own Short Track Summit. Just so happened they decide to have theirs on the very same dates and the very same towns as the RPM workshops. How do you think that worked out? As for the new drivers, I too hope the owners will continue to look for talent wherever they can find it and hope the talent doesnt continue to require a check to succeed. But I fear the Danicas of the world or the next gimmick will be the headliners.

plus thats where well grow a new generation of fans.

If we rebuild the short tracks, the fans will follow.

I love the short tracks. I always have. Coming from go-kart racing, the short tracks were the next step for me on my way to the NASCAR Cup level. I think collectively we all are also guilty of going for the glamour, speed and danger of the superspeedways today while ignoring the excitement and thrill of our past, the short tracks. We simply have to have the short tracks around our country healthy and thriving. Thats the future of NASCAR.

I too love the short tracks. I even know where you could invest something other than opinion in a great facility or two, but I fear talk is cheap. We may be guilty of buying into the hype of those things you mentioned but the top had better begin to help support the bottom and not the other way around as has been the case in the past. We DO need the short tracks healthy. They are the future of RACING. Not just NASCAR. Last time I looked at my trusty Speedway Directory, there was something over 750 racetracks in the country. Not counting the cup tracks, only 55 of them carried a NASCAR sanction. They are ALL the future of the sport we love and support.

In closing, and in support of my opinions, if one reads the eight pages of comments from race fans on the FOX page, you will understand my points. Over 40% have never attended a short track and its quite possible many of those who say they have are confusing the cup, Nationwide & Truck races at Martinsville, Bristol or Richmond for a short track race and not what DW is discussing in the article. Most comments are from folks who wouldnt know a sprint car or modified if it ran over them.

I also wish each of you and DW a Happy New Year!

Jeff Gilder
@jeff-gilder
14 years ago
1,783 posts
Absolutely awesome, Randy!


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Randy Myers2
@randy-myers2
14 years ago
219 posts
as the "king: would say; Thank you, thank you very much!
Bobby Williamson
@bobby-williamson
14 years ago
907 posts
The local-track issue is super complicated and multi- layered. Perhaps the most difficult to solve has been the cultural shift, which, to their credit, neither the racing community nor NASCAR hold responsibility. For a myriad of reasons, 16 year-olds no longer count the days until the awarding of their driver's license. Difficult to pin-point, but electro-gizmos like mTV, cell phones, the internet even 'monster-jam' are all factors. In post-war America, and through the adolescence of the baby-boomers, cars were king, Chevy vs. Ford vs. MoPar and Detroit was Mecca. But no more. Maybe the demise can be traced to the 1973 Arab oil embargo and Americans discovered a car named "Toyota". At any rate, life has never really been the same. Long/complicated story short, young Americans don't really care about cars or (worse) car competitions. The last of the baby-boomers were 40 years old in 2004, and that seems to more-or-less correlate to the dwindling-onset of motor sports.There were props, along the way, that seemed to indicate all was well. The rise of cable TV and ESPN, in the 1990's, introduced NASCAR and Dale Earnhardt to an eager national audience, only to be further stoked by the Jeff Gordon phenomena of the mid-to-late 90's. It was the good-ol-boys vs. the 'game boy' generation. Ratings went through the roof and tracks could not build seating fast enough. Sadly, the music died in February of 2001. The new and exponential-growth-curve sport of NASCAR was shaken to its very core, and as the 10 anniversary of Dale death approaches, all is not well. The experts all missed or mis-read the signs. The popularity of Earnhardt vs. Gordon was NOT the fact that Gordon was young and was from California, and had a phenom crew-chief, cut his teeth with dirt sprinters, and could make a slick TV-commercial...........no, it was none of that, it was a moment in time, and the culmination of a system that had created BOTH Dale and Jeff. Instead of further augmenting the system, all of racing set out and are STILL searching for the next Jeff Gordon.The system, of course, was the Saturday night short tracks, that had, after all CREATED auto racing. Stock cars in the south and open wheels in the north and mid-west. The south once had two levels of heroes: the 'cup drivers and Sam Ard, Butch Lindley, Jack Ingram, Mike Duval, and Buck Simmons. Local drivers that fans adored AND followed with a passion. With the no-end-in-sight growth of the 1990's, NASCAR made a calculated decision deeming the short tracks as (essentially) disposable. Let others worry with them and their razor-thin profit margins. But, that's not all, the Saturday night stars were integrated into the big-time performing on Saturdays at 'cup-land USA. Among other problems facing local racing, at least the paved versions, it has NO stars. Thank goodness, dirt racing does not suffer as badly with star-robbing and does have its Scott Blooomquists and Steve Kinsers.NASCAR made another tectonic decision, many years ago: Dirt is for farming. Asphalt is for racing. In the 1970's they strong-armed many long-time supporting tracks (Columbia, Myrtle Beach, Savannah, Fayetteville, Hickory, Greenville-Pickens..........) that pavement was the future. Fortunately (for them), RJR's money was still flowing, and Sam Ard was still filling the stands. In spite of their 60-year track record in such things, this may not be as true as they think. Local racing, instantly, was taken out of the lay-participant's hands, and finances (tires, tires, tires, and chassis) While not setting the (financial) woods on fire, dirt racing fans, in large numbers, are the ex-patriots of NASCAR, and the passion is still present. It's also a matter of physics, dirt racing is simply more fun to watch........cars power sliding, in unison, flipping, spinning it's a throw-back to the old days of NASCAR. The typical asphalt parade is just not as entertaining. There are exceptions, of course( BG-Stadium) but the old stalwarts of S.Boston and Hickory are but faint reminders of their past. There is a problem with the product.It's not about hot dogs and baloney burgers its about ENTERTAINMENT. Today's modern fan, if any exist, has to be sold on the concept. Cars running around in single file for 250 laps may impress the old guard, but won't do much for generation X'ers. At any rate, it's not happening, and the same can be extrapolated to big-time NASCAR. Without on-track action and sound entertainment value, endless plush amenities, concessions, and media coverage will not carry the sport to the next culturally-shifted generation. Like any commodity, the product must sell itself.If NASCAR, with all its prominence and clout, is not going to help solve the Saturday night crisis, who is? Well, others are starting to materialize, LUCAS, and the World of Outlaws groups, for example, are already getting their acts together (TV exposure etc.), and Bloomquist has indicated his belief that NASCAR 'Cuppers will be on his level sooner than later. NASCAR, obviously, has the most to gain and loose. They've got to DEVELOP the next Dale Earnhardt. Fans have got to KNOW him, along the way, and their must be a way, a Saturday night speedway...one that's exciting and fun and has good hot dogs.
Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
14 years ago
3,119 posts

When first I read this post, I assumed Mr. Mallonee had written the entire thing as he is usually most eloquent when approaching issues so close to his heart. It was not until after I posted my comment that I realized D.W. was actually the author. Even so, and considering my strong distain for Mr. Waltrip, he did make a statement about the issue of short tracks and the survival of local short track racing. To read what has been written by Randy Myers has impressed me to the extent that I want to join PattyKay in the request to have that response posted in any and all places where the entire racing world can read and comment. Also, Bobby Williamson has made several valid points in his response as well. This site has the most empassioned and knowledgeable people in the world of motorsports right here. We need to do whatever it takes to get that information out to the rest of the fans who don't know about Racers Reunion. As Johnny M. asked "have we made enough noise yet"?

Tim




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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.

Johnny Mallonee
@johnny-mallonee
14 years ago
3,259 posts
Randy Im going to give you two thumbs up on that post. I couldnt have came close to covering the bases as you did,my hats off to you sir !!!!!

Randy Myers said:
as the "king: would say; Thank you, thank you very much!