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Tim Leeming
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08/23/17 12:15:07PM
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Part Four is excellent and some of those points I have spoken about in several places, mainly the awarding of points to ONLY the competitors of the series who are running of the title.  There is absolutely no reason, other than insanity, to award points to a Kevin Harvick, Kyle Busch, Brad Kesolowski of Joey Logano that would deprive a series regular from those points.  Good job Randy.  Now just make NASCAR listen.

Tim Leeming
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08/15/17 07:45:03PM
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Bravo Mr. Myers!!!!!  No other words are needed.  You and I are so much in agreement on this part I think I'm worried about one of us.  Thanks Randy!  Good job and looking forward to Part Four. 

Tim Leeming
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08/15/17 03:47:22PM
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I should have known I couldn't pressure Cool Hand Randy.  

I am truly looking forward to Darlington.  Watch for me.  If the stands are like the rest of the races this year you'll probably be able to spot me.  Hopefully the stands will be packed.  Remind me someday to tell you of the story when I went there solo on a free ticket and ended up sitting between two HUGE Dale, Sr. fans.  I was so crunched I finally got up and walked to the back of the stands and watched the race from there.  

Tim Leeming
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08/15/17 08:48:59AM
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Dave, that is the situation with many of the short tracks with weekly programs.  The track to which I was referring actually had a front wheel drive division with five entries.  First they qualify them which, with spins and restarts to qualifying takes more than 30 minutes.  Then they run two heat races to determine starting positions for the feature because qualifying was for starting positions in the heats.  It was about that time I felt a though I had fallen down the rabbit hole and needed to find Alice to get me out of there. 

My Darlington trip is the result of one of my friends calling months ago.  Jimmy, Tommy and I have been friends since our teen years and used to attend all the races at Columbia Speedway and Darlington.  Jimmy suggested we have a race reunion at the Southern 500.  He was so sure both of us would accept that he had already ordered the tickets.  As I understand, the tickets are 14 rows up, one section down for the start/finish on the turn one side of the flag stand.  I'm really looking forward to the trip and the time with my friends.  We see each other occasionally but the busy lives they lead don't give us much social time. 

As you said, "Come ON Randy, we are waiting on Part III".   lol.  Nothing like putting the pressure on Randy Myers!!!!

Tim Leeming
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08/14/17 03:45:34PM
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I recall, very well, seeing Bill, Jr. and many weekly races.  In fact, at Myrtle Beach Speedway one night, he watched the race from the top of our motorhome after having supper with us.  The few tracks I've been to over the past few years I don't think were NASCAR sanctioned except for that one Anderson Speedway Race I attended for the division you were directing Randy.  I'm not even sure anymore where the closest NASCAR sanctioned short track is these days.  It's a shame because I would enjoy the racing there I'm sure. 

My problem with the closest weekly short track to me is the length of the program.  They run 8 (I think) divisions.  They qualify five of them and then have two ten lap heat races in the others. Yellow flags fly everyone lap in the lower divisions and quite often in the upper divisions.  Last three times I went I left at 1 a.m. to get back home by 2 am and they still had three or four races left.  Stayed for the entire program one week and didn't get out of the speedway until 2:30 am.  I talked to track personnel and they said the program just ran longer than expected.  However, I hear that is the norm.  I guess what I should do is go early, watch practice and watch racing until about midnight and then head home.  The good old days of Hobby and LMS racing is gone.  We had two heat races in the Hobby (10 laps each) and the feature (25 laps most nights) and the LMS ran two heats of 20 laps and then a 50 lap feature.  Great racing, great crowds and always something to talk about. 

As for the Cup races these days, I plan on being in the grandstands at Darlington for the Southern 500.  Will be my first time since 2003 and I'm actually looking forward to it because Darlington is my favorite track because it was the first "super speedway" at which I attended a race.  Started with the 1957 Rebel 300 and missed only the two '65 races (Mopars banned) and the 1967 Southern 500 because the Navy had use for me on the ship.  Randy, the accident that took your uncle happened right in front of me and I had blocked it from my memory until a few years ago when a friend gave me a DVD with the accident on it.  I was in the infield in the third turn (what was then the third turn).  

I have so many memories of Darlington, some bad but most good, that I'm  really looking forward to returning to the Southern 500. 

Anxiously awaiting Part Three Randy!!!!   Don't make me "poke" you this time..

Tim Leeming
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08/13/17 03:25:55PM
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To Randy and all others who read this.  First up, Randy, you have taught me a ton.  Were it not for you I would never have visited the NASCAR HOF and now I've been there, I believe, 10 times.  While I don't agree with everyone chosen to be included, I realize money and politics had an awful lot to play in selection of some of those.  Having said that, it is important to note that all those so far inducted ARE HOF worthy, but some have been included far too early while overlooking the pioneers and legends that laid the foundation and build on it.  But, alas, you commentary is not about the HOF but I just want you to know how much I appreciate losing my bet to you. 

As for what is wrong with NASCAR, in the eyes of NASCAR, nothing.  In the eyes of the younger fans, nothing. In the eyes of we old "farts" to which you refer, it is not so much, at least not in my case, that we expect to go back to those golden days of the 50s, 60s and 70s.  I totally agree that we have a huge issue with the "cars" they race these days.  They are all alike except for the decals used for headlights, taillights, etc.  Gone are the days when the Plymouth raced a Pontiac and Mercury.  Heck, NONE of those three makes exist anymore.  The issue of "aero push" and "down force" seem to be the problem child.  We all see that the lead car has the aero advantage and a pass for the lead under green is a dying thing.  Why can't they raise the cars off the ground, junk that splitter and have the driving in the hands of the driver?  Is that too unreasonable to expect?

As for laying ALL the blame at the feet of Brian Z. France, you may be onto something there.  It is my understanding that he owns only 9% of NASCAR having divested himself of most of it because, I understand, his divorce got very messy and he didn't need a vindictive x-wife taking NASCAR away from the France family.  How much of that is true, I don't know, but those are the stories making the rounds.  If I'm spreading "fake news" I apologize for that is not my intention. 

George Diaz, motorsports writer for The Orlando Sentinel, wrote an article appearing in my Sunday paper in which he is making the  program for the funeral of NASCAR.  He is convinced it's done and he offers several reasons for that supposition.  His main issues seem to be the departure of sponsor after sponsor from the sport.  He also quotes Dale, Jr. who says that teams are dumping the veteran drivers (Kurt Busch, Matt Kenseth, Kasey Kahne and others) because they can get the new drivers (William Byron, Chase Elliott, etc.) for 1/10th the salary (Junior's words).  Another sports site indicates teams have laid off many members. Heck, leave it to Joe Gibbs and the entire pit crew of the 78 and 77 may be out of jobs.   Jobs are getting harder and harder to find in the sport. 

The problem with NASCAR and the NFL, at least part of it, was NASCAR acquiescence to football.  When the NFL announced they were considering adding playoffs and having the Super Bowl on Presidents Weekend, NASCAR ran like a scalded dog and moved the Daytona 500.  Remember Mr. Chamberland and 
"Peace in our time"?  Appeasement (fear) didn't work then and neither has it worked for NASCAR.  The Daytona 500 should never have been moved from the President's Day weekend.  That was all the NFL needed to know.  They rule the sports world and NASCAR bowed to that.  In my world, race fans are, or where, race fans and the hell with the NFL.  I won't go into my close association with the NFL for several years when I worked for the attorney who represented many NFL players and coaches, including Bill Belicheck. NASCAR was once said to be competition for NFL and surely that was true at that time.  If NASCAR leadership had stayed to course, the competition could still have been worth the time. 

What we have had over the past 10-12 years in a confusion of rules, changes to formats, and even changes to what Brian France himself said would NEVER be called a "playoff" when he introduced the Chase.  What are the calling it now?  PLAYOFF.  That should never, ever apply to motorsports in any form.  Stage racing?  Wouldn't be nearly that bad if it weren't for five or more laps of yellow for most of them.  A two lap, at most and I wish it was one, would end the stage.  NASCAR takes longer these days to resolve caution issues, even the fake debris cautions, than ever.  Back in the day, the track crew could clean up a three car wreck in three or four laps and they were back to racing.  Now it's like six, seven or eight laps under yellow while the vacuum cleaners go out and vacuum the track.  

Let's talk drivers now.  Remember the day, and I know you do, when the fans had total access to their favorites.  I can't count the hours I've sat by Richard Petty as he signed autographs but I know it has been enough to earn the title of his "most aggravating fan".  To watch Dale, Jr. have fans push a cap or whatever through those little slots at Daytona for autographs is ridiculous.  I wonder if the fan feels like he or she is visiting a prisoner behind the glass or is it Dale thinking the fan is the prisoner?

Hiring the first "engineer" has proven to be a disaster when it comes to the purity of the sport.  Your Dad and your uncle knew how to work on their cars, did it, and raced them.  Same for all the guys until the engineers came in.  I remember The King under one of those Dodge Chargers of his working on suspension. Can Kyle Busch do that? I don't know, maybe he can, but I doubt it.

The world keeps changing as the news reminds us every day.  The sports world is doing the same thing as you point out about golf and even the hallowed NFL. As I said hereinabove, I know we can't go back but I would expect that NASCAR  can see the writing on the wall.  Yes, MONEY drives the sport but that money is disappearing at a rapid rate.  How many sponsors will withdraw before the end of this season?  Can't blame them.  Remember when we, the fans, would chose products that sponsored racing over any other product?  Remember when we HAS to have Goodyear tires and used Union 76 gas.  My coffee was Folgers while they sponsored Tim Richmond and later Maxell House when they sponsored Sterling Marlin.  I once used STP on everything that moved.  Any of that sound familiar?  Do you even know what companies sponsor what cars?  I don't and I don't really care.  I buy what's on sale. 

Randy, you and I are on the same page, singing the same song, but the right people aren't reading us nor listening to our musical talents.  I don't intend to turn my back on NASCAR as it has been my life since I was 5 years old, as I know it has  been yours.  I still watch it, read about it, and care about it.  Thank you for all you have done for me, now let's get together and see if there is anyway, ANYWAY, we can get those with the influence to consider what's happening.  

I'm looking forward to your Part Three.  You are really on to something here.  

Tim

Tim Leeming
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08/13/17 01:44:55PM
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I don't have time at the moment to provide a comprehensive comment on Part Two but, as always Randy, you are a fine representative of the sport and your comments are right on point.  Just this morning George Diaz, who covers motorsports for the Orlando Sentinel laid out the reasons NASCAR had better prepay the funeral expenses.  I hope, through your efforts and others of us who care, that things can change.  I'm looking forward to part three. 

Tim Leeming
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08/12/17 12:14:16PM
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When is Part 2 coming?  You get us all revved up and then you throw a debris caution!!!!

Tim Leeming
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08/07/17 07:34:14PM
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You rock Randy.  Trying to figure out if I qualify as a "pundit".

Tim Leeming
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06/16/17 12:17:55PM
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Waddell Wilson


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For those who do not yet know, Waddell Wilson lost one of his two sons last night, Thursday, June 15th.  Prayers for the Wilson family.  There is truly no finer man than Waddell Wilson.

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