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12/20/10 07:57:07AM
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New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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I'm beginning to wish I had never ask the question. Seems we started out talking about the new nose for 2011 and ended up criticizing everything NASCAR has done in the last 20 years. I'm open minded enough to see and understand how this sport has ended up with the rules we have today, and that the sport had to change. Staying as it was in 1973 was not an option.

I know I'm not alone when I say I'm looking forward to 2011. For the rest of the true NASCAR Stock Car Racing fans I say, "Let Go Racing Boys and Girls!".

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@bumpertag
12/17/10 04:35:52PM
363 posts

New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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The growth I spoke of are the number of fans. Those are the numbers that attract sponsors. The truth is this, the racing today is tighter and the competition is better than it was in the 60's, 70's or 80's. I agree the cars don't look like the cars rolling out of Detroit and I say "THANK GOD!" The cars of today look awful. They don't meet the rules you refer to and the lines are terrible. The current Impala would be a worse car than the Ol Caprice, and we all remember that Ugly thing.

I agree with your thoughts about the Southern 500 and wish it could have been left alone. The date was moved and I hate that it was, but I'm still a fan. As for your thoughts about local tracks, I couldn't care less... thats just me. I hate dirt and always have. I enjoy the saturday night races in Nationwide or Cup and wish there were more. When I was a boy in the 60's and 70's, I dreamed of making it in racing one day. My dreams never led me to Cherokee Speedway. I never wanted that, I wanted NASCAR, and from 1982-1984 I made it and work on a Cup crew and traveled with the team to as many races as possible. I loved it, Ireachedmy dream. My love for this sport isn't limited to only the things I agree with, but the competition and the excitement of the races. The rules and changes you speak of does not limit the excitement that can be seen on any given weekend. I work with many fans of Dale Sr and I'mdisappointed by the number of them that lost interest in NASCAR when Dale died and haven't watched afull race since.They're Dale fans, Not NASCAR fans. I am a NASCAR fan.

I wish the cars looked like the cars of my memories, but bodies change and NASCAR tried to change with them. Over time the speeds grew, improvement were made and little by little we end up with the rules of today. Deal with it, either watch the races and be a fan or turn them off. I prefer to watch and cheerfor for the teams and drivers of today, but remember and cherish the past.

Dennis Schalm said:

"If the sport hadn't evolved I honestly don't think we would have seen the huge growth the sport has been blessed with."

What real growth? The only growth financially has been to NASCAR and some of it's owners. A mid-level team would kill for the money that Gannassi, et al, get from one of those little decals near the rear tire of there cars. They would end up being the primary sponsor on that car. There only seems to have been "competition growth"because each manufacturer has at least one "super-team".

When Jr.Johnson was approached by R.J.Reynolds to sponsor a car, and he found out how much money they had in their budget because they couldn't advertise on TV anymore, he told them they need to sponsor the whole series and sent them to NASCAR. With idea that the money would benefit more teams than just his. You won't see that today. NASCAR is even trying to get the money before teams get a chance at it.

Bill France, Sr.'s way of doing things. If your car ain't fast enough complain to themanufacturer, or change brands. As long as the wheel base was at least 115" long the way it rolled off the assembly line, as X inches high, and X inches long, and X inches wide, and an engine that was no larger than X cubic inches, Then you had a race car.

I agree with the safety advancements, but don't be too quick to give NASCAR all the credit for that. They know a good idea when they steal one.

Built for racing chassis, OK. Body, whatever one your enginemanufacturermakes that fits it (within certain parameters). Templates, of course. Bad aero, talk to the manufacturer, not to the rules maker. Then let's go racing.

Stock Car Racing didn't HAVE to get big. The "improvements" you're talking about is killing the local racing scene. It was special to see a race on TV. It made you kill to want to see one live and in person. And when you couldn't, you were at the local track knowing that if it was on TV it wasn't going to conflict with your Saturday nightpilgrimage to the local bull-ring where the guys you see on TV now, learned ALL the ropes about racing. Not just driving, but not needing an engineer to set-up your car for you. {Unless you were Alan Kulwicki, or Ryan Newman, and went to college yourself.)

Happy Holidays!



Bumpertag said:

Thats quite and rant Jim. I understand many of your points but can't let myself get that worked up. I miss the Good Ol Days but I understand that the sport had to change in order to survive and continue tp grow. I'm not happy with much of what we see in todays NASCAR, but I still love it. If the sport hadn't evolved I honestly don't think we would have seen the huge growth the sport has been blessed with. With growth comes sponsor dollars, with sponsor dollars come technology, and technology brings change. Change is a given and most of the change has been good for the sport. The safety, reliability and increased competition are a byproduct of the good things that have happened in the sport and I'm grateful for this. I don't like the looks of the COT, but I understand how we got here. I enjoy NASCAR today, but it can't measure up to my memories from the 70's. It has changed... but it still has the FLASH and EXCITEMENT that attracted me in 1972. Sure I would love to see a TRUE Chevy, Ford or Dodge be competitive on the track, but I understand that those days are long gone.

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12/17/10 01:30:50PM
363 posts

New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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Thats quite and rant Jim. I understand many of your points but can't let myself get that worked up. I miss the Good Ol Days but I understand that the sport had to change in order to survive and continue tp grow. I'm not happy with much of what we see in todays NASCAR, but I still love it. If the sport hadn't evolved I honestly don't think we would have seen the huge growth the sport has been blessed with. With growth comes sponsor dollars, with sponsor dollars come technology, and technology brings change. Change is a given and most of the change has been good for the sport. The safety, reliability and increased competition are a byproduct of the good things that have happened in the sport and I'm grateful for this. I don't like the looks of the COT, but I understand how we got here. I enjoy NASCAR today, but it can't measure up to my memories from the 70's. It has changed... but it still has the FLASH and EXCITEMENT that attracted me in 1972. Sure I would love to see a TRUE Chevy, Ford or Dodge be competitive on the track, but I understand that those days are long gone.

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@bumpertag
12/17/10 08:29:00AM
363 posts

New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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Not an issue for me. The cars from the manufacturers look like crap to me. The Impala, Charger and Fision are ugly and WOULD NOT make a good racer. The Toyota has better lines and in todays racing they would be the only car winning. Would you rather see that???

There is no way that all manufacturers would or could produce a car that would be nearly equalwithout common templates. Brand indentity is important, but it's not more important than having good racing with all cars being in the hunt.
The days where a Dodge was a Dodge and a Chevy was a Chevy are gone. The sport can survive and grow only if the racing is close and competition is tight. Having one manufacturer dominate would destroy this sport.
Johnny Mallonee said:

wouldnt it be nice to see a car that would silhouette a show room car again?? just think you could even tell a Ford from a Dodge or Chevy and Toyota would be a ----------------Toyauto .. You wouldnt need to chase down a program to identify who who in the car business or look for your favorite color. these new wraps they putting on cars now has made a spray gun obsolete now

Bumpertag said:

Thinking back a few years when every team would cry and sing the blues about "Oh the Fords get a 1/4" added to their rear spoiler" and "The Chevy teams have an unfair advantage" I'm glad they all use a common template... somewhat. I agree the cars need to look more like the cars from the manufacturers but I don't see that being a possibility in the modern era. Aero is huge and there is no way to equalize it for all teams, and it wouldn't be much of a sport if one manufactuer had a better package. If you ask me aero has nearly killed this sport and it all started when NASCAR tried to "Add a 1/4" here and take a 1/8" there." This is why we have common templates now.
Robbie Solesbee said:

If they would just go back to stock sheet metal a new nose would not be an issue. Plastic noses are for late models.

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@bumpertag
12/17/10 08:09:50AM
363 posts

New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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Thinking back a few years when every team would cry and sing the blues about "Oh the Fords get a 1/4" added to their rear spoiler" and "The Chevy teams have an unfair advantage" I'm glad they all use a common template... somewhat. I agree the cars need to look more like the cars from the manufacturers but I don't see that being a possibility in the modern era. Aero is huge and there is no way to equalize it for all teams, and it wouldn't be much of a sport if one manufactuer had a better package. If you ask me aero has nearly killed this sport and it all started when NASCAR tried to "Add a 1/4" here and take a 1/8" there." This is why we have common templates now.
Robbie Solesbee said:

If they would just go back to stock sheet metal a new nose would not be an issue. Plastic noses are for late models.

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12/16/10 02:28:59PM
363 posts

New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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Click this picture to enlarge.

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12/16/10 02:19:12PM
363 posts

New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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Go to:

www.jayski.com

Scroll down to the paint scheme section and choose 2011. The #22 Kurt Busch and #14 Tony Stewart pages show the new noe pretty well.

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12/16/10 02:10:55PM
363 posts

New nose for 2011, what do you think?


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Saw the new nose for the Cup cars in 2011 a few weeks back and like the looks of it. Does anyone have an opinion? What is the benifit compared to the old nose, drivability or looks? Share yout thoughts.

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10/21/10 11:32:13AM
363 posts

A glimpse of greatness.


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I will always be grateful I was able to see Tim do his magic in a racecar. Robbie you spoke of him sliding through the turns at Riverside, He was a master at it. To me the image I replay over and over was of Tim qualifing at Charlotte. It seemed that he came off of turn 4 sideways every lap. He amazed me with his car control. I loved the quote from Harry Hyde's son, " The best compliment came from Earnhardt when he told us we better have everything tightened down real good, cause that driver of yours is driving the wheels off that thing." Tim Richmond embodied what it was to be a hard racer and it was only a matter of time till everyone would see him as a champion.

Will we ever see another driver that will do as much for this sport... only time will tell. For me, personalities and talent like this only come along once in a lifetime. I doubt I will ever see another fun loving, charismatic and confident driver with talent equal to what I saw in Tim. I miss him still and I pray that I never forget what I witnessed. I wish I could find the words that would inform and excite other NASCAR fans so they to could understand just what Tim Richmond means to this sport. I hope I live long enough to see him enshrined in the NASCAR Hall of Fame.
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