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Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
09/15/10 09:34:41PM
181 posts

Deserve to be in the HOF, but when?


General

I don't think anyone would disagree with the contributions Holman & Moody made to the sport of stock car racing (probably drag racing as well, although I didn;t keep up with that as much). However, at the rate of 5 new members a year, I believe it will be a long time before they get around to inducting companies and/or organizations to the HoF............considering how many outstanding drivers they will have to get through first. I would recommend that they consider creating a separate category for companies/organizations/race shops, etc. since there have certainly been some huge contributions to the sport from some of those areas, i.e., R.J. Reynolds, Goodyear, Union 76............some of the successful race shops such as RCR, HMS, JGR, Roush, etc.
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
09/10/10 07:50:43PM
181 posts

“Who doesn’t like kittens, bunnies and little baby seals


Current NASCAR

Yes, I'm in favor of it..........after all, it is for a good cause. I won't say a whole lot beyond that, except that I do agree that Kyle is one of the most talented drivers I've seen. On occasion, he could choose his words a little more carefully. He'll get better at that as more time goes by...............but NASCAR could probably benefit if there were more drivers like him. Whether you like him or not, he's very competitive, has loads of talent, and wants to win every race he enters. After all, that is the name of the game, isn't it?
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
09/05/10 11:54:07PM
181 posts

ANYBODY WATCH THE 1 1/2 MILE DIRT TRACK RACE TONITE?


Current NASCAR

Good race..........much better than some of those other sleep-inducing train rides that are all too frequent.
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
09/05/10 06:48:31PM
181 posts

A PRETTY GOOD QUOTE FROM A PROMINATE DRIVER


Stock Car Racing History

I'm not sure if Joey thinks he has to exert himself in order to gain some respect.........or if he just doesn't know any better, but to my way of thinking, he's still a kid who has a long way to go before he has paid his dues. Now he may become a very good, experienced, & savvy driver............in due time. Joe Gibbs needs to do some 'splainin' to him & inform him that he is in a position to learn an awful lot from the experienced drivers on the track & that he really should respect and take advantage of the opportunity he has............after all, there's not too many 18 year olds who even get an opportunity like this. He should make the best of it and be a good, attentive pupil..................just my opinion.
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
09/03/10 09:31:29PM
181 posts

ONE FOR RICHARD CHILDRESS


Stock Car Racing History

Richard Childress has helped many, many drivers during his years in NASCAR racing. I would certainly support Morgan's cause because I believe we need more causes like this..........especially in today's environment, but to comment on Richard's support................he has been a true goodwill ambassador of racing in general, many good causes, and many drivers who needed some support along the way. I think it is really admirable when one of the successful people in the sport not only supports good causes but makes major & meaningful contributions to those less fortunate. I commend him for this.
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
09/03/10 09:02:58PM
181 posts

IM HEARING RUMORS THAT THE CHAMPION MAY NOT -----


Current NASCAR

There's any number of scenarios which could occur in today's NASCAR format......for example, one driver could win every race leading up to the "Chase", then have a couple of DNFs in the "Chase" & lose the championship. Another scenario is the one you mentioned......one driver could win 0 races during the regular season, but because of consistantly high finishes, still qualify for the "Chase", then finish 2nd in every "Chase" race & win the championship......with 0 wins. There are numerous other scenarios besides these two, but the point I'm making is that the current "Chase' format is a joke. It is not representative of a true seasonal championship. I don't know who ever came up with this really bright "Chase" idea (being facitious here), but in my opinion, it is one of the worst brainstorms ever hatched by the current NASCAR hierchy. Rumor has it that they were trying to come up with a plan which would compete with NFL football on Sundays. Now, I love football..........and I love racing, but I believe this was a bad idea. We're talking two different sports here & the football playoff format makes a whole lot more sense than a playoff format for Cup racing. It's like comparing apples to oranges..........it just doesn't fit & is not truly representative of season-long performance. Another scenario: if only 12 drivers qualify for the "Chase", then why do they allow all those other drivers on the track during the "playoffs"? In my opinion, this is one of the major problems which NASCAR needs to fix.
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
08/26/10 12:04:12AM
181 posts

NASCAR---- What do you think, is it still interesting???


Stock Car Racing History

I could not have put my thoughts on paper any better than you did, PattyKay.........I guess great minds think alike. I, too, have been a NASCAR fan for about 60 years, never was fortunate enough to be able to drive a real race car although I did my share of street racing when I was younger. I did manage to do a little flagging at various tracks around the southeast and have been a "frustrated" race car driver forever. I really, really admire you guys like Johnny, Jeff, & Tim who, in my opinion, are part of the "founding fathers" of this sport.....and dearly wish I could have been in some of those seats you guys were in. The sport is nothing like what it used to be...............but it is still racing and I still love it, just not quite with the same level of burning passion that I used to feel. Although I truly admire some of the great young racing talent I see on the track today, I believe that every one of those drivers & team members is passionate about what they are doing - even those that are not quite as talented or well-financed as some of the others. Having said that, I am distressed about the changes, the current management, and the direction taken by the sport in recent years. It was a lot more fun when it was being run by those who had been down in the trenches, paid their dues, worked hard & played hard, worked their way up that proverbial ladder & never forgot where they came from..............and before so, so much corporate money came into the picture (although R.J. Reynolds was a great supporter of the sport). It's obviously become a very big business today, but I believe the France family & their associates should do everything they can to familiarize themselves with the early & middle histories of the sport............and make every effort to recapture some of the early culture that was such magic. That probably sounds like a pipe dream.....and maybe it is..........but we can still dream & enjoy our memories. PattyKay Lilley said:
You guys make me humble. I've never driven a stock car, other than the one parked in my garage at any given time. I found the sport quite by accident, which I discussed when Tim dragged me onto the radio for an interview. (Still don't know why anyone here would want to hear about me) The only thing I've ever raced was a snowmobile, and that was only drags, not ovals. There were races for those things held every winter weekend, just up the road from me, but by that time, I was past 30 and a mother, not that starry-eyed 16-year old, and I guess I'd developed more good sense by then. Still, I wasn't afraid to push that thing well over 100 mph and do it well. Ah...what a shame that youth is wasted on the young.

Even to the young fan, it's obvious that this isn't your Daddy's NASCAR any longer. I'm not naive enough to think that Big Bill and Annie didn't think about making money with their new toy. Of course they did. They were only human, for goodness sake. But it was young Bill that built the empire, with a lot of help from R. J. Reynolds. (I still believe that T. Wayne Robertson belongs in their precious Hall of Fame, along with everyone else on their limited list. By the time all the pioneers are inducted into the HOF at the pace of 5 per year, most of us will be long dead and gone)

Someone, somewhere drew a comparison between the Family France and immigrant families in America, saying that in both instances, the first generation work their fingers to the bone to get ahead, because they can. The second generation, having been passed the torch, keeps up the good work and improves its rewards so as to provide for the next generation, "in style" if you will. The third generation, raised not to see the actual work that Grandpa did, believes that Dad's generation somehow owes him a living and all too often, when it's his turn to take over the business, just trashes it for what he can get out of it, putting nothing back into it, until eventually, there is no business left.

Sadly, I can see that comparison all too clearly and I fear for the demise of a sport I have loved unconditionally for almost sixty years. Remember, one of the very first things Brian France did after taking over NASCAR was to sell almost all of his stock in the corporation. Not clever in my book, but then, I've never looked at Brian as clever...and he probably doesn't think much of me either. What a shame it would be to see all of the excitement and wonderment we've loved for so many years just thrown out like the baby in the bath water.

Johnny, you mentioned one of my pet peeves there and you might be sorry you asked, so I'll try to keep this part brief. In my humble opinion, anyone that goes to a racetrack to see wrecks is not a fan by anyone's description. He...or she...is a jerk of the highest magnitude. There are human beings inside those cars, and in any wreck anywhere, in any car, the weakest and most fragile part in that car is the driver! Wrecks are not fun and they are not exciting. They can and do kill. If someone gets some sort of pleasure out of that, then that person is beyond my understanding.

NASCAR insists that racing Talladega with restrictor plates is a wonderful idea. Well, maybe for them, if it puts fannies in the seats, but I beg to disagree. That sort of racing just scares the daylights out of me. Cars were never meant to race there four wide and ten deep for a multitude of laps. That isn't racing; it's blatant insanity. When you insure that the fast cars cannot pull away from the back markers, that is nothing but a wreck waiting for a place to happen...and it seldom disappoints. Maybe I'm crazy or weird, but I sometimes actually sit and cry when I see one of the "Big Ones" occur. Besides the obvious but mostly unnecessary danger to life and limb, look at the cost to repair all of those beautiful machines. Someone has to pay that cost, but it isn't Brian France. Yes, I guess Hendrick, Roush and the other big boys can probably afford it, but why? Other smaller teams can be devastated by being caught up in a couple of those "engineered wrecks" made especially for the idiots that come to see them.

Ahem...Johnny, don't wind me up like that about things I hold near and dear. Sometimes, when you pull my string I tend to become a little Chatty Patty doll and just keep talking and talking and...

~PattyKay
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
08/22/10 09:54:25PM
181 posts

This may be the Photo of the Week


Stock Car Racing History

As I've said before, he's one of the very best on the track & NASCAR needs to have drivers who create a little controversy occasionally. He's very talented, passionate about winning, & aggressive. That's a pretty good combination to have. He isn't universally popular, like a Richard Petty, but I remember a number of other good drivers who weren't universally popular, either............some who come to mind are Dale Earnhardt, D.W., Curtis Turner, Lee Petty, etc. At the rate he is going, he will be one of the superstars one day.
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
08/22/10 10:48:44AM
181 posts

WELL KYLE DID IT


Current NASCAR

Very well stated, Jeff............and I think you hit the nail on the head regarding the apparent declining interest in the sport. Those of us in "our" generation remember stock car racing the way it used to be................when racers would take old cars & turn them into racing machines, or take newer cars & turn them into racing machines..........and we could all recognize the Chevys, Fords, Plymouths, Pontiacs, Hudsons, Oldsmobiles, etc., on the race track. There was way more brand loyalty in those days and probably more driver loyalty, as well. We all remember the fiercely loyal fans pulling for the Junior Johnsons, the Flock brothers, the Fireball Roberts, the Lee & Richard Pettys, the David Pearsons, the Cale Yarbroughs, and more recently, the Dale Earnhardts, Jeff Gordons & Tim Richmonds.............and what we perceive to be the "good ole days" of stock car racing. This is a new generation of stock car racing & one which has to compete with many, many more forms of entertainment than what we saw in the '50s, '60s, '70s, and even into the '80s. The fans today do not have the automotive brand loyalties which we saw in past generations as all the race cars on the track now look the same..........you now have try to find some label on the car to determine what kind of car it is. The sport has evolved into something vastly different from what we remember as some of our fondest memories, but at the same time, it's still racing.........and I believe NASCAR has a real challenge on its hands in trying to appeal to the younger generation while, at the same time, holding on to the more senior core fans who made the sport what it is. I, too, am like PattyKay in that I guess I'll be a Dale Earnhardt fan all my life............besides all of his well-documented accomplishments on the race track, I'm not sure we'll ever see another driver with the charisma & magnetism he seemed to have. We do need more drivers like Kyle Busch because, just as I believe Dale Earnhardt was, he is an extremely talented (one of the best I've seen) & passionate driver who creates a love/hate atmosphere amongst fans. The sport needs that. I, too, believe that he will create his place in the record books, as well. ------ As you said, Jeff, the passion is still there with all of us, and we still have our precious memories, but it's still racing..........which we all love & hope that this and future generations will take good & proper care of.
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