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Let me know when you're ready to go Bill.
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Bill, great to see you here expressing opinions today. Seems as though you and I agree on this (surprised)? Really missed you yesterday but I'll make you this promise; when you are ready to make the trip, I'll meet you in Mooresville and you and I will take in Richard's Coffee Shop. Quite the place on a Saturday.
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I must say this is one of the most heinous B.S. articles I've read on the subject. For this idiot (and I'm getting good at calling names) believes ANY driver should give up a win out of the goodness of his heart to allow a competitor to advance to the next round is absurd. Winning is the reason you race and Joey knows that. Matt got what he deserved and it had been another driver he was blocking the same thing would have happened for the win. When this sport become full of candy-butt whimps????? And candy-butt idiots writing about it?
Brother Dave
Stock Car Racing History
Yes, Dave, get completely well very soon. It has been a long haul for you. I'm looking forward to when we can all get together again.
Now is this justice for Matt?
Stock Car Racing History
Denny Hamlin is so full of it perhaps he should be sponsored by Roto-Rooter. When Dale, Sr. "rattled Terry Labonte's cage, was he apologetic? I don't recall him being so. Seems he used the "rattling cage" reference in the victory lane interview. When Dale did it again, Terry slid across the line first so Sr. had nothing much to say. What about Daytona, 1976, hard racing and both Petty and Pearson crashed but I don't recall either Richard or David complaining. The 1979 Daytona 500 fight was the talk of the press, and had there not been the fight, it would have been hard racing. How about when the "holier than thou" Kenseth put the bumper to Jeff Gordon at Bristol, it was ok, wasn't it Matt? Your attempt to "apologize" to Jeffy was rebuked, as it should have been.
All this B.S. going around about a "Driver's Code" is coming from the mouths of the self-perceived righteous few who side with Kenseth. It is an absolute, incontrovertible fact that what happened at Kansas was Matt blocking and Joey moving him for the win. What happened at Martinsville was downright chicken-s**t racing on the part of the cheese head. As I've said, I'm not particularly a Logano fan but all this talk about what he should have said or should have done after the Kansas incident is silly. Since Joey came into the sport he has been the source of jokes and negative comments. He is standing up for himself now and some folks just can't handle it.
I don't mind seeing good hard racing FOR THE LEAD, cause spins or whatever, as long as no driver is hurt, but what Kenseth did is inexcusable. I had very little respect for him prior to Martinsville, but even what little that was is gone.
As for NASCAR be criticized for their "inconsistency" in decisions, I truly don't recall any driver ever being 10 laps down intentionally taking out the leader. But then the race drivers I grew up watching did have a "Code of Honor" which is sorely no longer in existence. The only "Code" now is the "Code" of the dollar sign. I don't think NASCAR was inconsistent, I think they felt they had to do something to control the pin-head drivers who can justify what Kenseth did. I really don't especially like siding with NASCAR, but this time they got it right.
So, all you old timers, think about this: If you can't handle what Joey did at Kansas, then you must not have fond memories of Dale, Sr. If you CAN handle what Matt did at Martinsville, then thatis a good sign of why racing is in the failing state it is.
Now is this justice for Matt?
Stock Car Racing History
Thanks, David. I know there are many people with whom I don't agree on racing issues, politics, or a number of things, but we are all still friends and we all have respect for each other and the differences of opinions. There are some out there for whom it is always THEIR way or no way! That sure limits their options. This issue I have with Matt is that what happened at Kansas was a racing for the lead deal with him blocking and Joey going for it. Matt threw the block, Joey didn't back off that time and, in actuality, Kenseth spun himself. I do think Joey could probably have handled it better but if you go back and look at the interviews after that race, it was Matt saying he had no intention of talking to Joey, he would just take him out at some point. As I said initially, I have never cared for Matt Kenseth and am not a real fan of Logano. I will express this opinion: This conversation between you, David, and me, Tim, has shown more maturity than Kenseth can ever dream of! Good for us!!!!!!!!!!
Now is this justice for Matt?
Stock Car Racing History
Jim, hope you're doing well. Yep, things sure have changed. There is hardly a driver in the sport today worthy of carrying your helmet.
Now is this justice for Matt?
Stock Car Racing History
Thanks, David, for reining me in a bit. I know I get extreme at times and my opinionated passions sometimes run wild. I was a little drastic on this. By way of explanation, and not an excuse, I have detested the fact that Toyota was ever allowed in NASCAR. Having been involved in the past with the NFL, I know Coach Joe is not entirely as he claims to be. I have had a strong dislike for Matt Kenseth since he entered the sport and his actions at Kansas got him exactly what he deserved and should have expected. Then to blame Logano for that was reprehensible to me. He is a whiney-butt brat in my opinion and the sport would be better off without him. But I do appreciate you bringing some stability to my volatile attitude. Take care.
Now is this justice for Matt?
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What it is NOT is justice for Joey. Kenseth should have been banned for the rest of the season instead of being allowed to return for the championship race. He's very fortunate, however, because had it been in my control, he would be banned from NASCAR for life. He is about as lowlife as can be allowed to breathe!
NOVEMBER 7, 2015 RACERSREUNION GATHERING IN MOORESVILLE
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Ok, folks, we are one week away from our November 7th gathering in Mooresville for a day of fellowship with other race fans. You don't have to be a member of RacersReunion to attend, we would just love to meet you. Schedule for the day is as follows:
10:00 a.m. Meet in the parking lot of The North Carolina Auto Racing Hall of Fame located at 119 Knob Hill Road, Mooresville, NC. Take Exit 36 off I-77. If northbound, turn left off the exit and cross the bridge and turn left by the Chick-Fil-A. As to go down that road, at the top of the hill, Knob Hill turns off to the right. The Hall of Fame is on the left just after you turn onto to Knob Hill. If you are South bound of I-77, get off at Exit 36 and just cross over to go down past the Chick-Fil-A. We will tour the Hall of Fame from 10:00 until 12:00
At 12:00 noon, we will head to down town Mooresville (about 4 miles) and visit Richard's Coffee Shop which is located on the Walk of Fame where you can view the plaques installed in the sidewalk. Richard's Coffee shop is a tribute to Veterans and is staffed by super friendly folks.
Approximately 1:00 p.m. we'll take a lunch break, most probably at the Chick-Fil-A as it is convenient.
Approximately 2:00 p.m. we will arrive a Memory Lane Museum where the RacersReunion Hall of Fame is located. Memory Lane is truly a place where fans of the early days of racing, as well as fans of current day racing can see displays to make your heart race.
Admission prices:
NC Auto Racing Hall of Fame $6.00. Senior (55 and over) $4.00. Children 6-12 also $4.00. Children 5 and under free.
Memory Lane Museum: $10.00. Children 6 to 10 - $6.00. Children 5 and under free.
I did NOT request special group rates for these visits because it is impossible to estimate how many may participate in the trip. Also, as I consider both of these facilities to be very worthy of fan support, I would like to think we can do our part to support these institutions.
One final note; we are most fortunate to have Mr. Bob Hissom, a member of the Board of the NC Hall of Fame and a huge contributor to the preservation of our heritage in stock car racing, to join us for the day and to provide a personal guided tour of the NC Auto Racing Hall of Fame.
I expect this to be a very enjoyable day for everyone who attends and I am hopeful for a great turn out. If you have any questions I haven't addressed, please e-mail me or just call my cell, 803-318-5744.
updated by @tim-leeming: 12/05/16 04:02:57PM