It Really Was Different Back Then

Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
13 years ago
9,137 posts
I know the older I get the more sentimental I am for the "old days" of stock car racing and I know that today's fans with all the tv coverage (as PattyKay has so clearly documented) just don't understand what it was like to have that occassional contact with the cars and drivers back in the day. I and my buddies were 16 in 1964 when we began going to a FEW races. We had started listening every week on the radio to any that were broadcast. This was how it went in my hometown of Richmond in 1964. It was a 62 race Grand National calendar beginning at Concord and ending at Jacksonville. We'd made it to thespring Richmond race won by David Pearson in Cotton Owen's #6 Dodge. That race started on Sunday afternoon and finished under the lights on Tuesday night after rain turned the 1/2-mile dirt track to mud. But we were hooked and thus we begana tradition that no longer exists - going from motel to motel the night before the cars were due to sign in so we could see who had come to town to race. For our September "fall" race, the cars came straight to Richmond from a dirt event in Hickory. On Saturday the Pearson/Cotton Owens car was at Southside Dodge, along with David. Richard Petty and car were at Lawrence Plymouth and Ned Jarrett and his Ford were at Richmond Ford. They still had red Hickory clay on them. The Richmond race was a one day show on Sunday - practice, qualify, race. After dinner on Saturday night we again went around to all the motels. Petty & Pearson, along with their cars on open trailers were at the Holiday Inn near the track. We would park and actually walk up to the trailers and cars. The crew would come out of the rooms whose doors were opened and talk to us. We were thrilled. Then we'd go to the much cheaper Richmond Auto Court. That's where Bill Siefert, Tom Pistone and most of the guys were. It was a bunch cheaper. When we went to the dealerships that September weekend, we could peer into the impound lots and see the next year's new car models ready to go in the showrooms. That was a huge thrill. Then after the race, the track gate was opened and in we went to talk to our hero, JT Putney. The last driver left was always Richard, who sometimes would go sit in the grandstand until every child had spoken to him and had gotten their program signed. Is it any wonder that man was loved by most fans regardless of what make car you drove or pulled for? These are the sorts of memories that are difficult to relate to today's fans. It's not just trying to describe Junior Johnson and Tiny Lund side by side coming out of Richmond's turn 4 throwing a roostertail of dirt into the bleachers, it's about those intangible feelings and times we know we will never relive andthat will never happen again. When I tell today's fans it was different then, these are some of the things I'm talking about. Today's 16 year olds can't sit down in a NASCAR Grand National car that Bill Champion just climbed out of. Does this make sense, or is it just old fuddy duddy stuff?


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updated by @dave-fulton: 12/05/16 04:02:07PM
Jeff Gilder
@jeff-gilder
13 years ago
1,783 posts
Lol..makes a lot of sense, Dave!


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Dave Fulton
@dave-fulton
13 years ago
9,137 posts

This is where the "independents", i.e. non-factory teams stayed for the Richmond 1/2-mile dirt track races - Richmond Auto Court on U.S. 1 just north of track. It's been torn down for years.




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Robert Turner
@robert-turner
13 years ago
88 posts

When I was 14-15 years old I was large for my age so I looked a little older I guess. I would watch near the garage gate and wait for someone like Buddy Baker to come by and would fall in step with him and more times than not got into the garage area. I got ran out a few times too. Back then you could get into the pits shortly after the race and into the garage area fairly soon after that. I had my own collection of lug nuts, decals and sparkplugs found lying around the garage area. I got to speak to a lot of the drivers and mechanics. I heard my first race on the radio in '62 and saw my first race in Atlanta in '63. Seems like we had to go back to AIR (Atlanta International RAINway as it was called back then) a couple of times before the race was run due to rain. We were in the infield in near turn one and I could see the cars above as they came off pit road. For those who weren't around then, the nice flat infield at Atlanta was once rolling hills and gulleys and turned into a mess when it rained.We were sitting and looking up at the track.

My hero Fred Lorenzen won the race (he had won the year before in the rain shortened Atlanta race I had heard on the radio) and my hero became even larger in my eyes. I came back and gave him a model of his '64 car at the fall race in '64, won by Ned Jarrett in the Blue #11 Ford. Actually I gave it to Herb Nab to give to him,I didn't get to meet Fastback Freddy until the late '80s or early '90s when he came back to be the Grand Marshall and I got to have my photo made with him in the press building as I was photographing for a few of the racing papers by then. Over the years since I have been privileged to meet a lot of drivers and still remember the early ones the best.

More ramblings of an old race nut later.

Richard Guido
@richard-guido
13 years ago
238 posts
This was a real good look back. Thank's for sharing your memories.
Robert Turner
@robert-turner
13 years ago
88 posts

Speaking of Tiny Lund, this is his car from the '64 Atlanta 500. A lot different than driving the winning car at Daytona in '63 to a year old Ford in '64. This is when I was a 15 year old witha $2 camera. Notice it sometimes took me a while to take my film for processing.

Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
13 years ago
181 posts
Nope, it's good stuff, Dave............and brings back many great memories. I have no idea what kind of memories today's younger fans will have about the sport of stock car racing - but there's no way today's track experiences can even hold a candle to the "good ole days".
Ernest Sutton
@ernest-sutton
13 years ago
181 posts
That's because Tiny was driving Marvin Panch's '63 Holman/Moody Ford in the '63 Daytona 500. Marvin had been injured in a practice accident in another car and Tiny helped pull him from the wrecked car, so Marvin recommended him for the 1-time ride and he won the race.I was fortunate enough to be there for that one. I liked Tiny but was not a Ford fan............and they finished 1,2,3,4,5 that year.

Robert Turner said:

Speaking of Tiny Lund, this is his car from the '64 Atlanta 500. A lot different than driving the winning car at Daytona in '63 to a year old Ford in '64. This is when I was a 15 year old witha $2 camera. Notice it sometimes took me a while to take my film for processing.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
13 years ago
3,119 posts

Awesome Post!!! Brought back plenty of memories forme too as your descriptions are almost exactly the way it was with us. Richard Petty at Burnside Plymouth. David Pearson at Burnside Dodge, Ned Jarrett at Pulliam Ford. We spent most of the time with The King, of course.

And seeing the new cars before they were put in showrooms!!! Wow that was awesome. One of my friends was the son of the guy in charge of parts at Oliver Motor Company, a Chrysler-Plymouth dealership. He lived in an area where the back yard was over an acre and surrounded my a high fence and hedge bushes. In 1960 through about 1965, the Plymouths and Chryslers would be stored in his back yard three weeks before introduction to the public. How we loved that preview and advantage we had. I often lament the fact that I never carried a camera with me because I could have had my own personal photo of every Grand National Driver from the mid fifties through the time the fans were closed out. I had my picture taken in many a race car and did, in fact, in 1964, get to drive the King's number 43 out of the Burnside showroom onto the trial. In 1971 when Richard won the Columbia Speedway event. he stopped at the flagstand and I got the checked flag, sat on the door with my legs inside the car as he drove around the track. I'll never forget the look on my mother's face when we passed where she was in the infield. We had a personal relationship with the drivers,. or at least we believed we did. Today, the only thing close to a personal relationship with someone is saying goodbye to Abe and U.S. Grant as I hand them over to NASCAR. Come to think of it though, I haven't done that in a number of years. Thanks, Dave. I love this post.




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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.