Modified pictures everywhere...

Why are there so many "Open Wheeled Modified" pictures under the Stock Car tab? Some on dirt, some on asphalt. Can't they go somewhere else? When I click on the Stock Car tab, I'd rather see only asphalt stock car pictures. I can't be the only one that feels this way. It takes too long to shuffle through a lot of pictures of modies to find stockers. I understand that at some point back in the distant past that the line between stockers and modifieds was very close and maybe ever zig zagged enough that there was no clear definition of one or the other. But shouldn't the modies be under the open wheel tab?

Sorry if I ofended anyone, thats not my intent. Just looking for clarity.

I don't know whether you need an archeological team to extract that car or a chainshaw and shovel.

johnny mallonee said:

on the lighter side of the coin bumpertag I am building a chevy coupe now and using the way of yesteryear to fabricate it,so I guess it will be considered a modified by some,an old coupe by others but in reality its a race car and yes it will compete as it will not be a poser --it may not not be squeaky clean and straight but it will be touch me please car-- here is what it looked like before we finally got it out of the woods

Well Bumpertag, for what its worth, I'm with you on this one all the way!!! I feel the same way you do about this. I just dont get it either. I said something about it in the past, and got no where.

This is getting out of hand. WAY TOO MANY modifieds, it's taking too long to find what I came to this for. Still love the site but wish there was someway to refine the "Stock Car" tab to eliminate the modifieds. For a long time it was just the opposite, lots of stockers and a very few modies. Now it seems we are finding it harder to post new stock car pictures so the modies are being posted instead. As with other annoyances in life, "this to will pass."

Let me try this again....If you will view the "Vintage Racing Gallery" you'll find it does not contain all those Mods...mostly stockers. We take the "cream of the crop" and place it in there almost every day.

Bumpertag said:

This is getting out of hand. WAY TOO MANY modifieds, it's taking too long to find what I came to this for. Still love the site but wish there was someway to refine the "Stock Car" tab to eliminate the modifieds. For a long time it was just the opposite, lots of stockers and a very few modies. Now it seems we are finding it harder to post new stock car pictures so the modies are being posted instead. As with other annoyances in life, "this to will pass."

Jeff I went to that page and still saw many modified racers. Maybe it's me, but when I click on the "Stock Car"tab I don't exspect to see hundreds of open wheel, no fender racers. I thought that was the purpose of the different tabs, to narrow the list of pictures to a specific catagory or type. I understand that some may look at these and see "EARLY STOCK CARS", but I don't think they fit the catagory. When I hear the words "Stock Car", I think of any race car that looks like a stock car type racer and has a full body.

I still love this site and visit every day. Love the stories and the flood of memories. Thanks

Jeff I went to that page and still saw many modified racers. Maybe it's me, but when I click on the "Stock Car"tab I don't exspect to see hundreds of open wheel, no fender racers. I thought that was the purpose of the different tabs, to narrow the list of pictures to a specific catagory or type. I understand that some may look at these and see "EARLY STOCK CARS", but I don't think they fit the catagory. When I hear the words "Stock Car", I think of any race car that looks like a stock car type racer and has a full body.
I still love this site and visit every day. Love the stories and the flood of memories. Thanks

I wasn't going to respond to this discussion, but I will give my 2 cents anyway. I am not a fan of the modifieds mainly because I didn't watch them growing up as a kid. I watched what was called "Superstocks" and a fairly new class of cars in the late 50's called "Supermodifieds". The Michigan Supermodifieds were very, very competitive with the crowd at Oswego and won a few Classics. We have info and a fan page for these cars on the open wheel side of Racers Reunion.

I'm only one person of many and just because I don't care for something doesn't mean I speak for so many others on Racers Reunion. That being said, I never thought I'd be interested in the late 40's early 50's Nascar race cars that were raced. I then found a man named Jim Streeter who was kind enough to answer a few questions about how race cars were built and driven back in the day in Nascar. From tires, engines, rear ends, transmissions, brakes and bodies, he shared what he remembered and I became a fan. Maybe someday that one certain Modified will catch my attention and I'll fire off some questions.

As far as Johnny's "find"... build how you want to and enjoy it, Johnny! I'm sure I'll follow your build and ask some of my usual stupid questions along the way to learn more about your passion for building it. I also know it won't be a "trailer queen" as Johnny will use it harder than he probably should on the race track.(Especially if Tim is involved). I also know it will be built old school and who knows, I might become a fan.

Just a few of my thoughts...

Pete

I'm pretty sure Jim Streeter drove mods.

Pete Banchoff said:

I wasn't going to respond to this discussion, but I will give my 2 cents anyway. I am not a fan of the modifieds mainly because I didn't watch them growing up as a kid. I watched what was called "Superstocks" and a fairly new class of cars in the late 50's called "Supermodifieds". The Michigan Supermodifieds were very, very competitive with the crowd at Oswego and won a few Classics. We have info and a fan page for these cars on the open wheel side of Racers Reunion.

I'm only one person of many and just because I don't care for something doesn't mean I speak for so many others on Racers Reunion. That being said, I never thought I'd be interested in the late 40's early 50's Nascar race cars that were raced. I then found a man named Jim Streeter who was kind enough to answer a few questions about how race cars were built and driven back in the day in Nascar. From tires, engines, rear ends, transmissions, brakes and bodies, he shared what he remembered and I became a fan. Maybe someday that one certain Modified will catch my attention and I'll fire off some questions.

As far as Johnny's "find"... build how you want to and enjoy it, Johnny! I'm sure I'll follow your build and ask some of my usual stupid questions along the way to learn more about your passion for building it. I also know it won't be a "trailer queen" as Johnny will use it harder than he probably should on the race track.(Especially if Tim is involved). I also know it will be built old school and who knows, I might become a fan.

Just a few of my thoughts...

Pete

Good points by all and I understand that what I see as modifies some see as early stock cars. Each decade the racing and racers have changed, and I guess it becomes a question of what you grew up around. Here in upper S. Carolina I never heard of or saw a modified racer until around the mid 70's, and it wasn't anything that interested me. Other than a few of the top drivers, I nerver knew anything about the drivers or teams. This was like a little known sub series that lacked the drawing power to gain popularity to equal that of NASCAR stockers in that era. I know that was not the case, that the modies had a huge following and could hold it's own with any division. It just never appealed to me. To be honest, I liked the Baby Grands more than the modifieds because they looked more like street cars.

Jeff, this site could never disappoint me. I'll just have to wade through all the stuff that others like to find what I like. Fans of the open wheelers have to go through pictures they don't care for, so it's all a wash. No hard feelings, I hope, and please keep posting all the pictures you can find. Great site!

Bumpertag --- dont give up that easy --- I was just getting into our weekly debate ---but never fear there will be another that will start a neat discussion and you can partake in that one also

Bumpertag said:

Good points by all and I understand that what I see as modifies some see as early stock cars. Each decade the racing and racers have changed, and I guess it becomes a question of what you grew up around. Here in upper S. Carolina I never heard of or saw a modified racer until around the mid 70's, and it wasn't anything that interested me. Other than a few of the top drivers, I nerver knew anything about the drivers or teams. This was like a little known sub series that lacked the drawing power to gain popularity to equal that of NASCAR stockers in that era. I know that was not the case, that the modies had a huge following and could hold it's own with any division. It just never appealed to me. To be honest, I liked the Baby Grands more than the modifieds because they looked more like street cars.

Jeff, this site could never disappoint me. I'll just have to wade through all the stuff that others like to find what I like. Fans of the open wheelers have to go through pictures they don't care for, so it's all a wash. No hard feelings, I hope, and please keep posting all the pictures you can find. Great site!

As you can see, BT, debating with Johnny is like wrestling a pig in the mud....you soon realize the pig likes it.

johnny mallonee said:

Bumpertag --- dont give up that easy --- I was just getting into our weekly debate ---but never fear there will be another that will start a neat discussion and you can partake in that one also

Bumpertag said:

Good points by all and I understand that what I see as modifies some see as early stock cars. Each decade the racing and racers have changed, and I guess it becomes a question of what you grew up around. Here in upper S. Carolina I never heard of or saw a modified racer until around the mid 70's, and it wasn't anything that interested me. Other than a few of the top drivers, I nerver knew anything about the drivers or teams. This was like a little known sub series that lacked the drawing power to gain popularity to equal that of NASCAR stockers in that era. I know that was not the case, that the modies had a huge following and could hold it's own with any division. It just never appealed to me. To be honest, I liked the Baby Grands more than the modifieds because they looked more like street cars.

Jeff, this site could never disappoint me. I'll just have to wade through all the stuff that others like to find what I like. Fans of the open wheelers have to go through pictures they don't care for, so it's all a wash. No hard feelings, I hope, and please keep posting all the pictures you can find. Great site!

That's "OLD RACING PIG" Jeff!! LOL!!! Great pig too!!! Rick

Jeff Gilder said:

As you can see, BT, debating with Johnny is like wrestling a pig in the mud....you soon realize the pig likes it.

johnny mallonee said:

Bumpertag --- dont give up that easy --- I was just getting into our weekly debate ---but never fear there will be another that will start a neat discussion and you can partake in that one also

Bumpertag said:

Good points by all and I understand that what I see as modifies some see as early stock cars. Each decade the racing and racers have changed, and I guess it becomes a question of what you grew up around. Here in upper S. Carolina I never heard of or saw a modified racer until around the mid 70's, and it wasn't anything that interested me. Other than a few of the top drivers, I nerver knew anything about the drivers or teams. This was like a little known sub series that lacked the drawing power to gain popularity to equal that of NASCAR stockers in that era. I know that was not the case, that the modies had a huge following and could hold it's own with any division. It just never appealed to me. To be honest, I liked the Baby Grands more than the modifieds because they looked more like street cars.

Jeff, this site could never disappoint me. I'll just have to wade through all the stuff that others like to find what I like. Fans of the open wheelers have to go through pictures they don't care for, so it's all a wash. No hard feelings, I hope, and please keep posting all the pictures you can find. Great site!

I prefer my race cars to have fenders and a windsheild, to each his own. I guess if I'd grown up around chopped up cars I'd like them more. My childhood was filled with stories and pictures of NASCAR Grand National racing and the stars that made it famous. Nothing else will do for me.

Hey Ricky glad you picked up on this whats your take on the saga define a modified vs an old school race car vs a late model plastic car

Ricky J. Coody said:

That's "OLD RACING PIG" Jeff!! LOL!!! Great pig too!!! Rick

Jeff Gilder said:

As you can see, BT, debating with Johnny is like wrestling a pig in the mud....you soon realize the pig likes it.

johnny mallonee said:

Bumpertag --- dont give up that easy --- I was just getting into our weekly debate ---but never fear there will be another that will start a neat discussion and you can partake in that one also

Bumpertag said:

Good points by all and I understand that what I see as modifies some see as early stock cars. Each decade the racing and racers have changed, and I guess it becomes a question of what you grew up around. Here in upper S. Carolina I never heard of or saw a modified racer until around the mid 70's, and it wasn't anything that interested me. Other than a few of the top drivers, I nerver knew anything about the drivers or teams. This was like a little known sub series that lacked the drawing power to gain popularity to equal that of NASCAR stockers in that era. I know that was not the case, that the modies had a huge following and could hold it's own with any division. It just never appealed to me. To be honest, I liked the Baby Grands more than the modifieds because they looked more like street cars.

Jeff, this site could never disappoint me. I'll just have to wade through all the stuff that others like to find what I like. Fans of the open wheelers have to go through pictures they don't care for, so it's all a wash. No hard feelings, I hope, and please keep posting all the pictures you can find. Great site!