Edward vs Keselowski

Here we go! Is NASCAR gonna let the drivers handle things themselves or will there be a huge penalty for intensionally causing a wreck that sent a car into the air and nearlt into the catch fence? Sound Off!
updated by @bumpertag: 12/05/16 04:02:07PM

This is going to be interesting to see how harsh they will be. If not for the dreaded wing...that most likely would have been a mere spin out...with less "fear" for the fans involved.


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I agree with the wing! I can't wait to see how this thing pans out. Personally I think that Edwards has a bad habit of being overly aggressive, but this time I think he went too far. It is fine to give another driver a "lil love tap", but it is totally different to intentionally wreck another driver at 195 mph ( not to mention that driver being 154 laps down). OK, my tangent is over LOL.

I think what Nascar had in mind was letting the driver's bump and bang a little under caution laps on the track or maybe get into a shoving match after the race and having a few derogatory comments about each other even if the had to bleep out a few words. What they didn't have in mind I'm sure, is to have a car in the grandstands or a driver killed in a 180mph flying payback. When that car came back up on it's wheels, I crossed my fingers that Kesolowski was okay, cause it looked bad. Carl just executed the worst judgement he possibly could have, in when and where he decided to pay Brad back and he's lucky he doesn't have to live with what could have been a disasterous result. As for what to do with him, well since he's had a couple incidents, I don't think sitting out Bristol would be too harsh a punishment, I think Carl needs to check the anger a little.While I'm on my soap box, I'm tired of seeing tons of sponsor products on the winning cars roof, I'm tired of seeing drivers all take a drink before the interview and have to recite 75 sponsors names. The sponsors and the commercialism has overtaken the racing. Just say: my car ran great, thanks to all my sponsors (we can see the car and the uniform) and leave it at that.One last gripe, I would like to see a rule put in place where you could not use the word "awesome" in an interview, it is way over used and there are other words available. What ever happened to, good, great, super, excellent or maybe even the old "dialed in" now and again.Just my pet peeves, great to have this site to voice them.

David Bentley, I am very guilty of overuse of the word "awesome" because since I found this site almost everything I encounter here is awesome, but I totally understand and agree with the essence of your post. Thank you for taking the time to write it. I did hear that Carl Edwards did post, on his Facebook Site today, that he did cause the accident intentionally but he didn't realize it would be that bad. If NASCAR doesn't park his butt for a race or two, or three, they need to go back a few years and give Kevin Harvick a $100,000.00 bonus for that parking they did of him at Martinsville I think it was. Carl Edwards has been the darling child of the media for quite a long time but the insiders know he is not as he appears on camera and yesterday sort of brought some of the real flipping Edwards into clear view.Tim


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What a change! It's been awhile since I've checked in and I'm quite surprised. It may take me awhile to figure it our but first look it's really great.

I LOVE your way of thinking! Robbie Solesbee said:

Chain of events-
1) Edwards tries to block Keselowski on the lap last of a race at Talledega and takes himself out. Refuses to acknowlege the reality of what happened.
2) Not content to get on with his life Edwards vows revenge.
3)Gets crashed on a bad restart. Like this has never happened to anyone else. Comes back out over 100 laps down to get revenge.
4) Purposely turns the 12 car. You can see Edwards pull a hard right and never get out of the gas.
5)Damage control time after Carl realizes he took this too far.


Now, if I were allowed to dole out punishment:
If I ran NASCAR- lifetime ban. It's one thing to act like a brainless thug. It's another thing when you decide to use an automobile as a weapon with no regard for who may get hurt.

If I where the county Sheriff- One count of assault and battery with intent to kill, and numerous counts of attemping malicious body injury, as this could have got ugly in the stands. A racing incident is one thing. When there are two cars on the track and one chases down the other to hit it.makes this a calculated move on Edwards' part. At this point racing has nothing to do with it.

If I sponsored the #99 team.
1) Terminate sponorship
2)Sue for damage to our corporate image.
3)Hire a professional to make the root cause of the problem "go away".

Or maybe this scenario- NASCAR has been taking advice from VInce McMahon on how to boost ratings. Maybe NASCAR wants to be like WWE-sports entertainmernt with a pre-determined outcome.

I didn't watch much of the Atlanta race so I wasn't sure of what Carl was retaliating. If it was from Talledega, that was Carl trying to block coming down to the checkers. That was Carl's problem and he lost. Did Brad do something intentional to Carl during the race at Atlanta? Nascar should throw the book at Cousin Carl for such a dangerous move that could have killed someone.From what I saw in the stands, parts could have flew off the 12 car and missed anyone sitting in the seats.Pete

Well thought out responses to a tough question. I think he should be made an example of and I feel a 1 race suspension and a fine with lots of ZERO's and points would work. The public shame of speaking to the media over and over on his punishment would help to get his focus back. Me personally, I think what we saw was a good example of "Roid-Rage". There has been a good bit of talk of how Mr. Edwards acts away from the camera and rumors of use of steroids. I don't know that for sure so I guess I should leave it at that, I've heard rumors.Heard this morning from a co-worker who was listening to the Dale Jr radio and they told Jr "The 99 just sent the 12 into the air" and Jr replied, "I knew something was up. The 99 slammed on the brakes and nearly stopped. I thought he was waitting on someone."Enough is enough. What ever NASCAR does, I hope it hurts!

WELL IT LOOKS LIKE NASCAR WILL NOT BE SUSPENDING EDWARDS. HE WAS PUT ON 3 WEEKS PROBATION. COULD BE A BLESSING IN DISGUISE, MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE TAKING REVENGE NEXT TIME! IT WAS A BLESSING THAT NOBODY WAS KILLED OR SEVERELY INJURED IN THIS ONE. Bumpertag said:

Well thought out responses to a tough question. I think he should be made an example of and I feel a 1 race suspension and a fine with lots of ZERO's and points would work. The public shame of speaking to the media over and over on his punishment would help to get his focus back. Me personally, I think what we saw was a good example of "Roid-Rage". There has been a good bit of talk of how Mr. Edwards acts away from the camera and rumors of use of steroids. I don't know that for sure so I guess I should leave it at that, I've heard rumors.

Heard this morning from a co-worker who was listening to the Dale Jr radio and they told Jr "The 99 just sent the 12 into the air" and Jr replied, "I knew something was up. The 99 slammed on the brakes and nearly stopped. I thought he was waitting on someone."

Enough is enough. What ever NASCAR does, I hope it hurts!

Well here I go... The show Sunday was a great race with many trying to be there at the end and drama built in to boot.Now the "flying" car was not supposed to be in the script because when it was designed and issued out to all the drivers and teams, this Bleacher seat (wing) that Nascar has installed on the "Car Of Tin" ,also called COT, is not supposed to fly but put it in the correct position with air,hot or cold, blowing across it there could be liftoff. Cuzin Carl didnt invent that little flying ordeal,your friendly Nascar joint chief of staff created this.What Cuzin Carl did was utilized his trusty little Ford in a little payback from an earlier oops from Brad. But you see Carl needs to watch some more film clips from past races mainly in the 80's and 90's to get the proper use of that maneuver down pat. Others were real good at that discrete maneuver but they never wore white gloves,never never never wear something that can be readily identified in your car against you.Cuzin Carl is on cloud nine right now with the baby in his life and his ducky brain aint functioning on all 8 points, being aggressive is racings nature, I know because I have a special friend here in R/R that was about as roudy as I was and we bumped and shoved and discussed it several times but neither of us wore white gloves. Some shout foul and want a lifetime ban,if you start this I think the stands will be empty.That guy setting on top of the box has control over him,or he is supposed to anyhow.Now that said the junk on top of the cars does get in the way of seeing all the eye candy scattered around the winners circle and I hear there is going to be a Trophy Girl again, no not one to take home, but let the crew crew celibate together. I think Jeremy did it correctly when he won, he said I want to get with my guys. That to me was from the heart.Now the suspension Nascar levied was unique in as you do "NOT" know what transpired in the closed doors of Brian and Mikes meeting with Carl but I can almost guarantee you that when the next supertrack race happens the bleacher wing will be back in the stands holding someones derriere up and the flying circus will be curtailed some shape for or fashion.But all in all I think everyone here voiced their personal belief and the responses were " A W S O M E " in the words of the LEGEND.My bottom take is Slow the cars down,dirty them up to the point that they cant get to fast. its simple to do, go to that wind tunnel that designed the car ----- Better yet give the technical crew here at R/R a week in there and we will solve all your problems------- Guaranteed mr nascar