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Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11/08/16 09:31:16AM
3,119 posts

DEBUNKING A NASCAR MYTH


Stock Car Racing History

I will begin this post by stating, unequivocally, I respected Dale Earnhardt, Sr., I loved to watch him drive, and while I didn't always agree with this on-track tactics, I believe what he did for NASCAR racing was important for the growth of the sport. Dale actually ran into me once, in the infield at Columbia Speedway, when I came around the corner of the concession stand and he was riding his bike at breakneck speed. He was probably 15 the, maybe younger. His Dad was racing the weekly sportsman race as he almost always did on Thursday nights.

There have been many articles posted, many radio and television comments made, and other forms of spreading the myth that NASCAR died with Dale on that last lap of the 2001 Daytona 500. I want to debunk that myth and it was NASCAR's own doing that brought about this post. The sport did not "die" when Fonty Flock, Tim Flock, Herb Thomas, Curtis Turner, Joe Weatherly, Fireball Roberts with died or retired. Surely each one of those individuals were as important to the sport and contributed probably more to building the sport than did Dale, Sr. The sport did NOT die with that last lap crash in 2001.

What started this was, as I said, NASCAR's own provocation. During the rain delay from the Texas joke Sunday, NBCSN chose to show the NASCAR produced chronical of the 2001 season, which included, among other things, much to do with 9/11 and NASCAR's willingness to reschedule the New Hampshire race set for the weekend after 9/11. To be fair, I remember that discussion went on for two days before NASCAR decided to reset the New Hampshire date to the Friday after Thanksgiving. I also remember the local university football coach here in Columbia was absolutely NOT in favor of rescheduling the game set for that Saturday. But, after all, that was Lou Holtz, consideringhimself to be only one step below God. But, be that as it may, let me make my case here.

The entire season of 2001 was shown in snippets from each track and at every track shown, thestands were full.Not an empty seat appeared at any of the tracks. Odd, I thought, that with the tragedy in Daytona in February alleged to have killed the sport, still full stands. That made me curious to follow up on that.

Thanksto YouTube, I was able to pull up video of grandstandsof races so I went on a search. I searched the Daytona 500 and the Coke 600 for all seasons starting with 2002 and going through 2010 before tiring of the obviousthat was appearing before my eyes. The 2002 season saw no drop in attendance from what I could determine from the shots of the stands and infields at those tracks. Neither did 2003, 2004, '05, or '06, although 2006 began to show some fewer fans in stands on theturns in Charlotte. Daytona appeared to be as full but there was never a clear shot of the back straight stands at Daytona. I didn't bother to research when those stands were removed since I couldn't see them in any of the videos.

Oddly, in 2007, crowds were slightly less at Daytona and noticeably less at Charlotte. In 2008, the massive "Tarp" family began to take the seats at Charlotte that were once filled with cheering fans. Stands in Daytona were noticeably fewer although not yet to the point to of a huge defection of fans. The 2010 season shows a marked decrease in attendance. The last Cup race I attended was the 2011 World 600, to which I took my threegrandsons. We were in the stands in turn four (complimentary tickets) and there were so few people in those stands we could have thrown a football around without disturbing anyone. Looking down the front straight, it was obvious that fans were staying away in droves.

We are all aware that tracks are now installing larger seats and painting them different colors so as to appear there at people sitting there when, in fact, there aren't. Last year we saw, at least of FOX, every effort being made to avoid overhead shots of grandstands and even track level shots of the stands to prevent fans at home (what few watched as supported by dismal ratings).But it has beenrumored that at least one major track owner has said he couldcare less how many folksare in the stands because the television money makes up for lack of attendance and besides, it takes less time to clean up the stands with few people thereby saving him even more money not having to pay crews to clean up.

So, my point is the death of Dale Earnhardt did NOT kill NASCAR,although he is definitely missed and it would be wonderful to see him now as a team owner with winning drivers oncemore putting his mischief-grinning face in victory lane. Such a thought stirs good emotions inside me. All of us who watched that black number 3 hit that wall in Daytona remember that vision just as we remember every other major tragic event occurring in our lives.

I refuse to state that NASCAR is dead. I admit it is suffering and is being administered chemo treatments to keep it alive, and I believeremission of the cancer lies in the future. But Dale's death did not cause the cancer. I do think it speaks for itself that the first marked decline in attendance began in 2007. Do you remember what appeared in NASCAR's Cup Series in 2007 with the auspicious start in Daytona?

The Chase? Good or bad? I hate it and I don't often use the word "hate" asI feel that is too strong. The "champ" from last year is a joke. Missed half the season and then was manipulated into the Chase by NASCAR. The Chasehaskilled the sport for the "core fans" of yester year of which I am one. Asfor all the new fans being pulled in according to NASCAR, the Chase is agadget of trickery for minds more attuned to technicalequipment that racing. How long is that going to last?

I am sureNASCAR management makes every move based on what is good for the bank account, NOT what is good for the sport. That's the way it rolls these days. Think back over just this season and the debacle after debaclethrough which the fans have had to suffer and it continues as we roll on to a Championship where the two winningest drivers on the circuit are not evenallowed to participate for the Championship.

But to end my diatribe, it was NOT the death of Dale Earnhardt, Sr. that began the downward slide of NASCAR. That is hypeNASCAR would love for you to accept because it relieves the pressure for them having to admit the management within NASCAR is clueless as to how to present an "on-track product" (their new catch phrase) that is going to appeal to the fans.

That's the Legendtorial for toady as there will be none on the radio show tonight as we are having a very special guest. Can't wait to hearour guest tonight discuss NASCAR. I won't mentionhis name at this timeas I'm not sure whether or not that is confidential information and I'm not sure I'm on a secure server.


updated by @tim-leeming: 12/05/16 04:00:58PM
Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11/06/16 01:02:41PM
3,119 posts

Candid NASCAR Timing & Scoring Photo


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Settle down and take your place. Its another round of the ridiculous chase. With all the troubles in this great Nation, we should worry little about race manipulation. The Favored Four willll all break bread before they fake a race at Homestead. A "Champion" for the season? With the Chase that is beyond reason.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11/06/16 08:09:30AM
3,119 posts

Candid NASCAR Timing & Scoring Photo


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Dave, you can expect to hear from my attorney tomorrow morning. I was expecting some real NASCAR information when I saw the heading of your post. Then I saw this and fell out of my chair laughing, thus hurting my elbow when I hit the floor, not to mention burning myself severely with the coffee I was drinking and then twisting my ankle when I was trying to get up. Further, my blue carpet now has a huge coffee stain indicating a full replacement carpet for the Lair is needed.

Oh wait! After viewing the picture again and re-reading your comment, you are to be commended for putting the truth out there. Bet you won't see this on NBCSN today, nor will you hear Jeff Burton constantly repeating "NASCAR got it right".

Thanks for the laugh this morning. You and Ms. Joyce had a wonderful day.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11/08/16 07:48:26AM
3,119 posts

Seriously, where are race fans?


Stock Car Racing History

Robert, it appears you and I are in the same corner on this one. The Chase becomes more ridiculous with each race. I will never be satisfied until the Chase is gone and the Champion is the best performer of the season. The two drivers with the most wins, Truex and Kesolowski are both out of it. As for the "Toyotas" read "Killing the Rising Sun" and then run out an buy a Camry.

If you saw the interview with Joe Gibbs during the rain delay about the dissention within JGR, you saw a man who has taken the Brian France class in how to not answer a direct question by talking about in circles.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11/05/16 07:24:17AM
3,119 posts

Seriously, where are race fans?


Stock Car Racing History

Good post Johnny! The part about "$10.00 to get in" is a memory I think we can only share through misty memories of the past.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11/05/16 07:22:07AM
3,119 posts

Seriously, where are race fans?


Stock Car Racing History

I like the way you think Russell.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
11/01/16 06:42:30PM
3,119 posts

Seriously, where are race fans?


Stock Car Racing History

Part of the problem is there in the framing of your question Patrick. "Where are the RACE Fans? That implies that there is racing of which to be a fan. What we have now is manipulated B.S. pretending to be racing.

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
10/31/16 03:41:47PM
3,119 posts

ONCE UPON A TIME..........................


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Dave. I totally agree with everything you said. Completely. However, I do object to you using my friend, Mickey Mouse's name invain. You will be fined for that!!!!!

Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
10/31/16 12:19:44PM
3,119 posts

ONCE UPON A TIME..........................


Current NASCAR

That is the beginning line to so many Fairy Tales most of us grew up hearing. And the last line of most was "And they all lived happily ever after". The story in between those two lines is usually one of morals and adventure. After yesterday (Sunday) at Martinsville, let's just think of it as "Once upon a time" there was a sport that attracted fans because of the participants, the excitement and all the other things that grew the sport to be the second most popular sport in the country, second only to the NFL.

Then, problems began that did not involve a giant and a beanstalk, nor a witch and a poison apple, nor a lady in a tower with very long hair but instead involved the writer of the story making one bad decision after another that drove away fans, threw the core fans "under the bus" and continued to pursue such ridiculous ideas as "The Chase".

Attendance at once full venues now is pathetic. Television ratings are so low they will soon be in the negative numbers. Still it continues. With all the magic of a Fairy Tale, NASCAR managed to make a joke of itself yesterday trying to figure out the line up after the caution where half the field was in the pits when the yellow came out. Twenty-nine laps under the caution while the braintrust in race control tried to figure it out. THEN, even though he was on the front row for the restart, Kyle Busch wasn't satisfied with NASCAR's decision and then he had to put up with uncooperative teammates keeping him in fifth.

Somehow, I don't think this story is going to end with "they all lived happily ever after".


updated by @tim-leeming: 12/05/16 04:04:08PM
Tim Leeming
@tim-leeming
10/28/16 06:16:50PM
3,119 posts

A Piece of knowlwdge that is going around


Stock Car Racing History

Thank you Johnny and thank you all for the good wishes.

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